Line Wars/Breaking Strength

RTARK is always telling me how strong his Mr Crappie line is so I decided to put it to the test. I tested Mr Crappie Hi-Vis, P line, and TriLean TransOptic all in 8 lb test/Mono. I used my digital fish scales and hung it on a door knob with a short piece of twine. I then cut off four foot sections of each line and tied the tag ends together. I then wrapped the tag ends around a cylinder piece of wood to act as a handle and secure the line from slipping at the tag end, leaving about a 1 foot loop. I Put the loop in the scales hook and then applied a steady downward pressure until each line broke, while watching the digital read out. I noted at what weight the line broke at during each test. I tested each line three times to add validity to the test. I was surprized at how close each line broke at within a few Ounces each time. I then took the average breaking strength of each line from the three test results. A good way to see just how strong your line is compared to others. Any of you can do this at home on a rainey day. Here is the results.


Mr Crappie/Hi Vis Line Dia.010... took an average of 18lbs 11oz to break

Trilean TransOptic DIA.025 took an average of 18 lbs even to break

P-line DIA.023 took an average of 15 lbs 6 oz to break.

So RTARK you are right that Mr Crappie Line is some tough stuff and at .010 DIA WOW... I will bet for those of you that dont like Hi Vis Mr Crappie clear lines are also just as tough. I will test others to try and De-thrown our initial Champion. But as of right now Mr Crappie is in the lead.

Did any of them break at the knot?

I didnt know it before but I see that the dia of the others is twice as big as Mr C. If all the test were identical and you used the same knot at the same place , it dont make any difference. Good test.

Good test. I use Mr Crappie 6 lb test for trolling. I fish out of a 17 ft Glasstream and I have had 2 lines to get hung up at the same time and stop my boat without breaking....Thats some TUFF line!!!...Sounds like the 8 lb is just as tough....Not too crazy about the 4lb line tho.

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Originally Posted by Midsouth Man

Did any of them break at the knot?

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NO Dennis no knot to break. The tag ends were tied wrapped around the wooden handle leaving a loop of line to test with, just the force of the line/Loop was pressured agianst the Hook on the digital fish scales in a steady downward motion untill it broke. I look at the amount of weight it takes to break the line each time.

what kind of P-line did you use ? My 8lb p-line is not .023 ??? NOt taking anything away from your test , it sounds like a good one but the diameters shouldn't be that much different for 8lb test . Most 8lb lines are .011 or .09. Glad you shared this with us been wanting to try Mr. Crappie line anyway. OH what knot are you using ( just wondering so I can get the most out of my line strength. Thanks !

If I'm picturing it right in my head, it sounds like testing the line in a loop isn't as accurate as testing a straight piece connected to two different points. Definitely a neat test. But I wonder how each line would do with a hook tied to each end?

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Originally Posted by faithfularcher

what kind of P-line did you use ? My 8lb p-line is not .023 ??? NOt taking anything away from your test , it sounds like a good one but the diameters shouldn't be that much different for 8lb test . Most 8lb lines are .011 or .09. Glad you shared this with us been wanting to try Mr. Crappie line anyway. OH what knot are you using ( just wondering so I can get the most out of my line strength. Thanks !

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P-Line CX is 0.23 MM or .92 inches
Trilene Transoptic .25MM or .10 inches
Mr Crappie is .25 MM or .10 inches

Sorry here is the correct specs in Metric and Inches. RTARK your Mr crappie line is not twice as thin as the others cos there is a metric measure ment and in inches measurement which i got confused... but Mr crappie is still the strongest I have tested so far. There is no knot involved in test, this test is conducted with direct line pressure against weight of scales.

Add a zero to the P-Line Russ. I think it should be .092

Good test, glad you posted the data. I use the 6LB cajun red and it seems pretty strong too but i've thought about going to the hi vis MR Crappie in 6LB. One other thing to consider is how easily it frays. I bass fish a lot also and those new Fluorocarbon lines seem to fray way too easy. The FC lines also seem to have too much memory off the spool. Tried that Berkly Vanish also and it is terrible about fraying. Thought I'd add this about these lines before somebody else had to figure it out the hard way like I did. I think I'll pick up some 6LB Mr Crappie line.

Thanks LUVPT yes.092 inches, a little thinner than .010

CS im going to test every 8 lb mono/FC (will call this the control test line) i can get new off the spool, Of course this will vary if you go up in line weight or down but the results should be about the same on a greater or lesser scale for each brand of line. Ill let you know what poundage they break at in the 8lb class only... but one can expect that results should be similar up and down the line weight classes, It will be fun to see what is the strongest 8lb test on the market. Keep in mind this test is a strength test only, and will not accurately show how well a line frays or not fray... but im willing to bet the stronger lines will not fray as easily as the weaker ones as a whole.

Cool test Russ. Thanks for sharing your findings!

been fishing with the 6-8lb test mr.crappie line high vis for a long time, never had a problem, glad to see it perform on this test!

Your test results are intriguing but don't you think it would be better to test it with a knot? The knot is where all the stress is exerted. I just wonder if a line having a stronger linear strength translates into stronger knot strength. I used Mr. Crappie line for years and was impressed by it's strength. So impressed I decided to the put the 10lb on a couple of my bass rods. It did not perform near as well in that task, way too much stretch and very limited abrasion resistance. Here lately I have tried the Suffix Elite and the P-Line CXX Hi-Vis. I think I like the P-Line the best out of those two. If you can get a hold of some Yo-Zuri Hybrid I would really like to see it's results. That is my favorite line and it always seemed to be super strong, limp, and had very good abrasion resistance. It is really hard to find these days though and they don't make it in Hi-Viz. Just out of curiosity I might try some tests myself.

I spooled up some 6 lb. Cajun Red the other day and was amazed at how hard it was to grab and break off a hang-up. I don't know how well it would do in the test but I would like to see the results.

SJ my Goal is to show you a lines breaking point and what lines have the best breaking point in a 8lb line class to keep things simple. I really dont have the knowhow to figure in knots and how well a knot works, stretch, and abrasion resistance. I do believe tho I can show you how strong a line is with this simple test.

Good test Russ!!

I love this site, I get all the benefits without all the work..Mr. Crappie has been good for me on my crappie rods...plus, being ancient, I can almost vsee it..lol

Russ, I use Silver Thread AN-40 because of its smaller diameter. I use it for tying my double drop spider rigs and for a leader on my braid. I would like to see its results when you get time. I might need to change. I have had excellent results in both overall strength and knot strength, but I could be missing something better.


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Good test and I use 4 Ib. Mr. Crappie Hi vis and I love it. I think the line is tougher than strean or trilene. I really helps being Hi vis when jigging and watchin the line. Good luck to everyone.

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Originally Posted by CrappiePro

Thanks LUVPT yes.092 inches, a little thinner than .010

CS im going to test every 8 lb mono/FC (will call this the control test line) i can get new off the spool, Of course this will vary if you go up in line weight or down but the results should be about the same on a greater or lesser scale for each brand of line. Ill let you know what poundage they break at in the 8lb class only... but one can expect that results should be similar up and down the line weight classes, It will be fun to see what is the strongest 8lb test on the market. Keep in mind this test is a strength test only, and will not accurately show how well a line frays or not fray... but im willing to bet the stronger lines will not fray as easily as the weaker ones as a whole.

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In response to all the knot talk, every know will probably have varying breaking strength cause even though you tie the same knot every one of them will have different breaking strength. Now as for the Cajun red line it's some tough stuff. I use braid on some bass rods cause the feel is better but it frays easy on limbs/rocks. Power pro braid is what I use though for bass on c-rig and finesse rod

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Originally Posted by constructskeeter

Good test, glad you posted the data. I use the 6LB cajun red and it seems pretty strong too but i've thought about going to the hi vis MR Crappie in 6LB. One other thing to consider is how easily it frays. I bass fish a lot also and those new Fluorocarbon lines seem to fray way too easy. The FC lines also seem to have too much memory off the spool. Tried that Berkly Vanish also and it is terrible about fraying. Thought I'd add this about these lines before somebody else had to figure it out the hard way like I did. I think I'll pick up some 6LB Mr Crappie line.

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I tried he Cajun red and didn't like it at all. It was strong enough but it was like casting bailing wire. I like the limpness and the price of Mr C and every now and then, you can drag your line ( if on a spinning reel) and it is like new as far as a memory set.

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Originally Posted by rtark

I tried he Cajun red and didn't like it at all.

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I love the Berkly Vanish Flourocarbon as it's clear and real low line memory.

X's 2. It's on all my rods.... spider riggin, long-linin' and cranks....it works!!!!!

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Originally Posted by NIMROD

I love the Berkly Vanish Flourocarbon as it's clear and real low line memory.

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I put some florucarbon on the wifes bream gitter a couple years ago and it had a memory like an elephant. It lasted 1 trip and it was 9 bucks down the drain. Don't know which brand it was. If you guys that catch fish say it's good, I may need to try it again. Maybe I got it spooled wrong or something.

I used to use P-line but switched to the Berkley about two years ago. I will not use line that has memory....the Berkley Vanish is good stuff and tuff as nails....I really can't think of a single disadvantage to it. I do still use the P-line in 4# test on the slipcork ultralights in clear water (lake Monticello in the summer) and it also works great.

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Originally Posted by RCC

I put some florucarbon on the wifes bream gitter a couple years ago and it had a memory like an elephant. It lasted 1 trip and it was 9 bucks down the drain. Don't know which brand it was. If you guys that catch fish say it's good, I may need to try it again. Maybe I got it spooled wrong or something.

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Maybe I can test it for ya at the end of the month BRM. It's looking like a 18 lb breaking point at .010 inches is a pretty good line, but it's early yet who knows we may see a 8 lb test mono FC break the 20 lb barrier.