Do yall use the counter reels when long lining???
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Do yall use the counter reels when long lining???
rees, thats something Ive never done, but would like to try sometimes.
No
Most folks just use spinning reels and cast out the back of the boat as far as they can. Then depth can be controled two ways.....either let more line out or reel some in. Most of the folks that I have talked to just vary their speed to control the depth....slow down to go deeper or speed up to run shallower.
yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by "g"
Yep +1Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
that just don't make no sense to me, guess that's why I ain't doing it
nope--a bit less than a standard cast--and use weight depending on wind
Me neither T-man, how do you repeat what you had done. When slow trolling you put out a known amount of line and some thing with pulling or pushing cranks. Why wouldnt you use counters long lining??Quote:
Originally Posted by tritonman
Talk with gabowman....I think all he does is longline
I intend to pick some brains for sure, spider rigging is ok but my patience sucks. I enjoyed pulling cranks last summer and intend to start back up as soon as the spawn is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Keep it coming guys.
When you see Ronnie Capps logged in on here......do like I do and PM him with some questions, he has always answered mine. I see him online here pretty regular, just keep a eye out on the bottom of the front page to see who is logged in.
G, Ole Ronnie may get tired of me. Read a thread where he had some input on on the main board and his info was good. Read another article online last night but I cant remember who wrote it, he was from Jackson. It wouldnt let me bookmark it for some reason.
there was a thread on longlining a few months back, do a search, some useful info in that thread.
There was a good article on the MCC website awhile back by Bernard. It was really good.
That's the one I read last night, it is very good and informative.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockrumcrappieman
Line counters are hard to cast with a small bait, and they take forever to reset just letting the line out. Not enough drag from the jigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees Guide
I bought the Suffix braid that has a different color every 25'. Easy to cast and reset by the number of colors out. Two colors, give or take is about right. 40-50-60' out. I bought 20/6.
BRM
BTW, from what I've read, you can adjust depth by Jig Weight, Line Out, and Boat Speed. Kinda like cranks.
BRM
on longlining last year. Ole Bernard is one of the better folks out there at doing it. Here's the link http://www.magnoliacrappieclub.com/a...LongLining.pdf Think he's giving lessons for a fairly cheap price right now an know he does some guiding. Him and Brad are both guiding on Barnett and a few other lakes these days
how do you know what depth you are fishing then?? what difference in long-lining and trolling jigs, seems the same to me??
That's what I read and it is a dang good read.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonDon
Lug, slow trolling you are barely moving, long lining you are moving around 1mph. Line out is alot more.
may just be a different name is all. Toss out a jig bout as far as you can throw it with a decent spinning reel and ride around with the TM. From what I've read it's jig weight and speed that control the depth. TOW is the best way to know how deep
All it takes is TOW. I would suggest keeping everything the same until you understand what your doing.
Line size, speed, jig bodies and jig head style.
I agree. You can also add a small splitshot which helps get the jig deeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
I'd rather use a bigger jig rather than add splitshot. Bigger jig, bigger hook
I was thinking the same, scary for sure. Do yall run roadrunners or jigs without spinners?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonDon
Both
The best way to know how deep your jigs are running is to cast your jigs out "using a good throw", set your rods in the holders, maintain a certain speed, and head to shallow water. When you see your rods bouncing from the jigs dragging bottom then you'll know the depths those jigs wre running. You really need to learn this with all the sizes of jigs you intend on fishing so you'll know what to do when you see the fish suspended at certain depths. I find it much easier to add a splitshot the size of a 1/16th jighead to my lines vrs changing out 12 rods when I see fish hugging bottom in an area of 15' water. The next spot I fish the fish might be suspended at 10' deep or even shallower than that as the day gets longer (and warmer) over those same depths of water and all I would need to do is remove the splitshot. But that's just me. Something else you can do is shorten the mount of line out of the boat to bring your jigs closer to the top. Lots of time I'll only be pulling with half a cast of line out once the fish go shallow. (You need to do the testing on this too if you really want to know where the jigs are running.) I try maintaining the same speeds (.8-1.1 mph) regardless of where the fish are and how deep I'm pulling my jigs as I believe the fish you catch are going to be the more aggressive fish and they'll bite the faster bait before hitting the slower bait. I've seen stripers come up from 120' of water to hit a hering at 50' so I know a crappie can see the jig a couple feet over it's head. But if youre under the fish you probably wont be getting bit. There is a little learning that needs to be done and until you do this you really wont ever be sure as to how deep your jigs are running. Well....that's my 2 cents.Thumbs Up
All this is a long way from a bobber and minners I grewup fishin' with.
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Ric M.
Very true and thats what I thought too untill I tried all of these other methods. But when I look back on the bobber and minnow days I was only catching crappie mainly in the spring......now I can catch them all year with one method or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugnutzz
Rees you running your poles off the side or back of boat
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thats what i hope to do. i rarely get to fish the spawn or pre-spawn with work. its those dog days in july that i "get" to fish...Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
You need to do like I do then and pull crankbaits in the summer. Get you 6 poles, I use a 14 ft. and a 10 ft. on each side and two 8 footers straight out the back.....that gives me 4 ft. of seperation between them. Get some Okuma line counter reels and then get a Bandit depth chart so you will know how to set your depth. Pulling crankbaits is a great way to catch them during the hot summertime.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugnutzz
Off the side jvg, gonna set this boat up to pull my cranks and jigs off the same holders. At least that's where I am at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by jvg
Thats what I do too John........I pull two poles on each side at the back and two straight out the back using my HiTeks. That way I just turn my two seats up front around facing the rear and that way I can use my sportsbrella when needed and it won't be in the way while landing fish. Its a good way to fish. http://www.crappie.com/crappie/attac...e-cooling-.jpgThis picture is on ScottV's boat but I have mine set up the same way.
If you wanna know how to pull cranks. here's the vid that taught me how to set things up. Kent does a great job. Sardis Crank Bait Fishing | MyOutdoorTV.com
Thats the way I want to do it, like that shade stuff. Got a pic of the back?Quote:
Originally Posted by "G"
Probably somewhere....Just got two sets of HiTeks in the back like on the front.....I just removed one holder from each set on the back. I angled the "T" bars accross the back corners of the deck and turned two holders to the sides on each one and pointed the third holder towards the back. On the ones straight towards the back I angled them up just a little. I will look for a pic....if the sun was out I would go take a pic.
You can see one of the HiTeks on the back in this pic.http://img.tapatalk.com/2087a856-c875-851d.jpg
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Watch show #4 for another pullin lesson with Kent and Russ. This one is on Nader!!! Great stuff!
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