I had a bunch of my limblines cut yesterday. Why do people tear up other people's gear? Thanks for taking food out of my kid's mouth. Maybe I can repay the favor one day.
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I had a bunch of my limblines cut yesterday. Why do people tear up other people's gear? Thanks for taking food out of my kid's mouth. Maybe I can repay the favor one day.
I've had alot of trotlines cut. It makes me quite mad to hear about it happening to others or when it happens to myself.
Bet you'd like to get your hands around their neck.
You didn't know? The lakes and rivers belong to some of its users..in their minds..Quote:
Originally Posted by LA yard dog
Heck yeah I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
There was about 25 or so that was cut out of a set of around 70 or 80 lines. I ended up not having a single fish on that set. I figure the one's that were cut had a fish on them. I've been flat wearing the catfish out the last 3 weeks or so and the fish I've been catching have been averaging 7-8lbs each. Couple hundred pounds is probably what they stole from me.
Man I hate that for you. There is nothing lower than a thief.
I shot a hole in the last boat I cought cutting my lines with a .22 rifle guy called the game warden told me that was bad don't do it again then did one of these :highfive
Nothing like a trail came or midnight stake out IMHO
that sucks! some people!
Gosh I wish people would leave other people stuff alone. May they forever have diarrhea.
I'd never advocate violence, as in shooting,,but a piss elm pole about 1 1/2" in diameter and maybe 4 ft long might get a from the heart apology, if not,,shoot go ahead and shoot him. lol
I will say that I get pretty annoyed if lines are out unattended in the daylight hours but not enough to cut them. As much as yoyo's are now I wouldn't leave mine out unattended. I have cut two trotlines in my days but only after they got wrapped in the trolling motor.
It is perfectly legal to leave limb lines unattended in the day time, just not YoYos.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigKev77
Yoyo's are what I thought he was talking about. Still folks don't be cutting lines. Carry on.
I love to set the limb line and jugs over the trot-lines and yes we've had issue with people running them for us more than once. As for cutting them, not too bad unless you run them down the bank and bass fisherman catch them but a lot of people will run a line in a heart beat. My suggestion is to bait them at dark and run them at daylight, don't put them where folks will snag em and call the warden if you have to. I put up several messes of catfish every year from lines I set so I know how you feel.
It's like everything else. I was raised trot lining and we never left a line in the water. I can ride up and down Beaver lake and every bank is riddled with trot lines left behind. At least one every 10 feet. The world is full of stupid lazy idiots and they make it hard for the rest of us. I don't know what else to call somebody that goes out and buys all the stuff and make up the lines, buys bait, sets the lines and never goes back to run them. I've found 3 blue herrens tangled in trot line on my lake.
I have also seen several Herons caught in yo-yos and limb lines. I think there should be more regulation on guys that just leave stuff unattended. Sucks to hear that your lines were cut. Probably someone mad at those morons that mess it up for everyone else.
Hey Yard Dog, what body of water was that on where your limb lines were cut? Pretty low to do something like that! I'm guessing they cut the ones with fish on them!
Thats just the reason why I dont leave out my limb lines yoyos or trot lines. and when Im done I pick them up and go too the house. Ill will pole night catfish or bass fish while they are baited out and checking them every 2 hrs for fish and thieves. I cant tell you how many times on Lake Conway here I have pulled on someone caseing my stuff out here or had my stuff cut. So i dont travel very far from when im fishing anymore.
Was over at Ashbaugh once and the warden was out there cutting and pulling up lines that didn't have a tag on them w/ name and address, could this be what happened?
Yeah, you gotta have your info on them now. I'll tell ya what i've gone to doing when it comes to identification on them and maybe it will help some of you guys out.
I take a milk jug and with a pair of scissors I cut it in strips, then punch a hold in one end where I can attach it to my line. A permanent marker works well to write your name, addy, and ph# on. I've got several made up and ready to attach to the lines. Yall are getting me ready to set some lines!!! Course I don't usually set them til around mid to late march then plum on through the Summer.
I run my limblines commercially and don't have to have a name/phone# tag on every individual line. They require me to put 1 tag bought from AGFC per every 100 ft of line. I have about 250 or so out right now. I run them year round in the Arkansas River and some back water off the river and haven't had a line cut in years. 90% of the time, I bait them @ dark and go back and run them before work the next morning. I had an early meeting @ work the other morning and had to wait until that afternoon after work before I could run them.
The set that got cut was in about a quarter mile stretch in some back water off the river. I figure some ole boy pole fishing (no disrespect intended to pole fishing guys) was the culprit. None of my other sets in the main river or the other back water sets were cut and they had the amount of fish on them that they usually do. They cut them in just in that one area.
Are you running 250 -100' (multi-hook?) lines everyday, or are you running 250 hooks? If you are running 250 multi hooked lines, that can't happen for very long before you destroy the local fish populations. If running that many lines is within your local DNR's guidlines, I think they might want to update their impact studies, especially in your area. I have a good friend that is a commercial fisherman on the Mississippi River here for about 30 some odd years. I don't believe he has ever ran more than 25 lines, ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by LA yard dog
Tim,
I have 250 one hook limblines and a few hundred hooks on trotlines. I don't bait them all up every evening every time. Just kinda depends on how they're biting and how much bait I can catch.
Depending on the time of year and the current, I will also run 1000+ hooks on trotlines, a half dozen or so hoop nets and a few gill nets. I've also got money in over 100 nets that a couple of boats fish year round that catch 2500lbs+ of catfish and over 10,000lbs of rough fish weekly. I personally know of at least 3 other crews that do the same. At the last meeting @ the G&F I was at, there were over 20 guys, that I didn't know, that do the same. A lot of folks make a living for their families on the Arkansas, White, Cache, Saline and Ouchita Rivers and always will. My dad started fishing the river in the early 60's when only a handful of guys were doing it and I've been at it since '86 or '87.
it is always a small group of dummies that spoils it for a larger group who usually tend to do things the right way. I was fishing Lake conway this weekend and ran across 2 unmarked trot lines IN THE BOAT LANE!!
I get ya LA yard dog.
Limb lines with one hook are viewed the same as diddy poles are in my area. 250 of those as you mentioned for an operation like yours would not be significant or out of control. Locally, we can run 25 of those per person provided they are all clearly tagged and ran every 24 hours. It still requires a permit, but not a comercial one. Now if these lines are left in the water, baited or not, for more than 24 hours without being tended to around here, they get cut or become confiscated by the DNR and other locals. I personally don't do this. I don't just hang my empty hooks up in the trees when I am not using them either. Seen too many examples of birds and animals that have fell prey to these "not in use" lines.
The amount of Cats and rough fish that you are harvesting are typical and common to what is being done here too. I was concerned that you may have been running 250 lines with say 1000 hooks each on them i.e. "bad local impact" in a small area just on the Arky. Glad to hear that isn't the case.
Hoops and gill nets are real common here too, and I have no qualms with those either. I like those better actually - the fish don't best themselves up near as much as with diddy poles. I have not been along setting hoops or nets in many years, but I believe we are limited to just 6 gills and 12 hoops here. Just gotta let the gamefish go that happen into those or the DNR will fry ya. Good fishin to ya, and less thieves!
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