How many of you have Down imaging, side imaging or neither? I'm exploring my options....anything new should be an upgrade over my Eagle Ultra Classic.
Those of you who have Down imaging sonar...how many of you wish you had side imaging??
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How many of you have Down imaging, side imaging or neither? I'm exploring my options....anything new should be an upgrade over my Eagle Ultra Classic.
Those of you who have Down imaging sonar...how many of you wish you had side imaging??
Anybody who has seen side imaging on the water and doesn't have it yet wants it.
I'm one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
I will say that I would never give up the 2D sonar. I'm sure there's people out there that have them so finely tuned that they can see a crawfish from 100', but it wouldn't be me.
It all has it's place. If you have the means SI/DI/2d/sonar are all good options to have if you like fishing off shore. I have it and I like it so much I added a 2nd unit. It's just another toy in the toy box to play with.
If all you like to do is fish fallen trees along the shoreline I guess you don't need any of it.
that unit that you have is a very good unit.ive owned one and really liked it.imo. idont believe that di would help you catch any more fish but you would really enjoy the imaging that you would see with it. now si is another story,combined with gps this is the way to go.i dont no were you fish,but i fish kentucky lake/Barkley lake i can go to any bay or ledge out in the middle of lake and make a few passes using si and find a lot of fishing spots. just mark them on the scree o go back later and fish or i can use the record function and go to several places and then review my recording to plan the spots that i want to fish. you will be able to see fish,structure,ledges,dropoffs,creeks,bbait balls,bottom hardness.you can scan under boat docks for fish/structure .go out there and get you one you'll be glad you did:fishQuote:
Originally Posted by archer66
Another thing that the SI is great for is finding shad. In the spring or fall, you can idle through a bay and quickly see if the shad are in there yet. Saves a lot of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Does anyone know where to buy one at a good price? I have heard of a place that did factory refurbs??? I am thinking of buying a Hummingbird, but really like the look of the Lowrance Down scan... What do you guys suggest
Not really a pick in the poll for me or anyone with HB / SI my 1198 has all 3. And I'm a happy camper.
I fish Mark Twain Lake.....I'm pretty good at the standard patterns.....spring spawn, summer, early winter, etc. It's late winter and the transitional periods when the fish are following the schools of shad that I need to figure out. I was thinking better sonar would help me stay on the right structure and stay on shad schools better.
X2, except I have 2 HDS units. Works well for me as I have double vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman_Wantabe
Kind of like this. Here's a school of suspended crappie over open waterQuote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
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You need one more option to vote on,,how many have side & down and love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by archer66
Ain't me, but I sure wanna see it.:highfiveQuote:
Originally Posted by filletfetish
i'm in the market for SI/DI can anyone tell me which has less equipment to buy i heard Lowrance will run alot more money advice please .
Take your pick. You can view the SS on multiple units with Lowrance. Price pretty well comes out a wash so get what you like. I'd recommend you see the new views on the Lowrance Gen 2 before making a decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willbreaku
I vote "I would give my right ? for a si/di unit." They sure look usefull.
I use a hummingbird 150 single cone unit. It amazes me when before all this expensive technology came out people were still catching and finding fish. To me it's just a fancy money market!
I have a humminbird 1198. I find that I use the di more than the si
I just ordered a 798 di hd si for $ 845 included shipping. Had to search to find best deal
2d will show structure, fish, and baitfish under the boat...
DI will show a picture like image of structure, fish, and baitfish under the boat, and out to the sides a few feet..
SI will show a picture like image of structure, fish, and baitfish under the boat, out to sides 100+ ft, and which side of the boat...
SI is invaluable for finding "new unknown" structure...
Rickie
I use it all. Fishing Tournaments, I caan make one pass down a bank line, and see anything that might hold fish with my SI. Once I locate the structure, and pull up, over the top and look right into the brush pile and see if there are any fish there. Lowrance is a little more expensive, but for me it was only $200. I bought the HDS-10-SI Base Package, HDS-7-SI, and LSS-1, and only cost $200 more than HB. But I shopped the enternet, looking for best price for a month before I bought. Typically lowrance is about $500-$600 more if you don't get seroius on the searching. But it think it is still worth it in the BETTER Imagaes you will get from Lowrance. JMO
keith
Same here but three HDS units. Once you figure out what sidescan is showing you you'll never want to be without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
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Originally Posted by Creamlevel Kennels
X2 I need all the help I can get.
I seem to use the down scan more than the side scan.
Probably True...
But it is probably because you fish the same lake/lakes (Home Lake) most of the time, which would mean you are fishing the same Brush Piles also. I do to. But it gets down to what you are looking for. When I'm fishing my 2 Home Lakes, I tend to know where the Brush Piles are, and I'm not searching for structure. I just go to a Way Point, where I have Sonar/Down Scan set up on a Split Screen. Rarely use the Side Scan.
But when I am Tournament Fishing on a New Lake I have never been on before, or I am searching New Areas, and need to cover a lot of area quickly. Then I am using the Side Scan as a main source of locating Brush Piles. So I would figure that the Down Scan is used more, once you know where you are going, and you have located most of the structure on your home lake. I know one thing I figured out, and gald I did my units this way. I started out having the money to buy a DI unit, but decided to wait, and save money until I could afford the SI. I think that the SI is the way to go.
But You Are RIGHT. once you figure out your Home Lake, the DI is used most of the time.
keith
I don't have a choice to vote for ... Rofl
My boat has two DF's ... a b/w 2d HB in the console, w/tdx mounted in the bilge --- and a Lowrance Elite 5DSI mounted in the bow, w/tdx on the TM. My DSI unit, even if transom mounted, would only work (produce good images) at speeds up to 40mph. My boat runs in the low/mid 50's @ WOT ... besides that, even at 40mph I would most likely be more concerned with where I was going & what was on the water in front of me, rather than trying to punch my way thru the menu buttons to mark a waypoint (or even keep tabs on what the screen was showing).
SI is great for showing you what's in the general area ...
DI is great for showing you what's in a specific section of that area ...
Standard Sonar is great for showing you what's in a select space of that specific section of that area.
SI & DI work better when combined with GPS capabilities. But, none of them are of much use if all you do is fish the same spots, on the same lakes, all the time. Yet, when faced with an unknown body of water, or area of a known one that you haven't fished before ... any of the three are better than none of them.
.. cp :cool:
I don't get that statement. I look at the Lowrance image at the top of page 2 in this thread and don't see any side scan images past 40 feet on the SS. Even in the bass pro catalog, the images for SS have black bars 60+ feet out in 20 feet of water. I don't see this issue with a HB unless there is an obstruction or the water gets deeper on one side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamlevel Kennels
BBC Boards: Humminbird SI Screen Captures from 0' to 10'
i think what you wrote above would be generally true but not always.giod postQuote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
All of the images that are shown on the computer are computer imhanced images. I am basically talking about the Units Images, shown on the unit while you are out fishing. I had a HB-1198-SI and a HB-898-SI, after having HB people come out and set up, tinker with setting, they told me that was as good as it gets. So I sold the and bought HDS-10 and a HDS-7. Big differeene in the images at the Unit. when you looking at the unit on the water. Once you load them onto the computer they both look great. But seeing them on the computer is basically after the fact. I need to see the best image I can possible see. Just An Old Man's Opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stymie
keith
I like my SS and DI from Lowrance, wouldn't be without it. I really enjoy the GPS on the Lowrance, hovering on brush in winter, It's sure effective for me.
So now this thread turns into another ford vs chevy debate, huh? Here we go again.:bash
Eaxctly what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
Fellas .... anytime you have a "choice" discussion, it's going to have the potential to become a "chevy vs ford" scenario. The trick to not letting it become that, is to not LET it become that (by staying on subject), and/or not MENTION the fact that it appears to be coming to that. :bash Rofl
And, IF it should turn into such a case ... and site rules are being violated ... report the offending post, & let the Mods & SuperMods look it over & make a judgement call as to whether or not any action need be taken.
... cp :cool:
Thanks for all the replies and discussion everyone. The intent of my post and poll was to focus on the technology available so here is a followup question...
I fish Mark Twain Lake in Missouri 99% of the time. I'm pretty good (if I can pat myself on the back lol) at finding and catching whatever fish I'm chasing when they are in a known set pattern and doing what they are supposed to be doing at a given time of year. For instance crappie during the spawn or on a strong summer pattern or catfish in the spring when the rivers are running. Now I want to branch out a bit and get better and finding fish during the winter for instance or during transitional periods for instance between the spawn and the summer pattern etc. I was thinking that if I upgraded my electronics from the Eagle Ultra Classic I currently run to either a DI or SI/DI model I might have better luck finding schools of baitfish, seeing schools of crappie and finding brush piles and other structure that hold fish. Since I fish the same lake all the time and since I'm not a tournament fisherman ( I do fish probably 40-50 days a year) do you think I'd be satisfied with simply a DI unit and secondly do you think I'd be disappointed with a 5" inch screen if I went for one of the cheaper units like the HB 798CI HD DI?
I got to say, I have enjoyed adding SI/DI to my boat. I have Lowrances HDS so I'm not familiar with the HB numbers. For me, I opted for a larger screen.
I figured if I was going to spend the money and make the investment I wanted to make sure I had no regrets because of screen size. I think down imaging is pretty cool to look at but it alone wasn't going to make me spend the money. I wanted to have the SI. Now I must say I don't use SI every time I go fishing but I do like having it when I want it.
2d shows structure under the boat
DI will show a picture like image of the structure under the boat and out to the sides a few feet...
SI will show a picture like image of the structure under the boat, out to sides 100+ feet, and which side of the boat
In 1 pass SI will effectively show you a 200 ft wide swath of water...eliminating unproductive water...
SI is invaluable for finding new unknown structure...
Rickie
For Stymie, and all. Just for reference.
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http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...rainBridge.png
Hard to make out whats in those si pictures above.can anybody else tell whats being showed here other than the interference in the water column and all that darkness on the sides.just asking?
for best clarity I find 3x to 4x water depth seems to work best at least for me.
Cool pics mduncan62
I think he is confirming my questions about the black bars on the outer edges of the side scans. I'm surprised that in 20 feet of water, it can't see more than 70 feet out. Are all those units like that or is this one just not dialed in?Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo