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I would like a depthfinder with SI, DI,and 2D WITHOUT the gps.I don't believe its availiable.... Why???? Looks like Humminbird and Lowran are forcing Gps on us whether we like it or not. Am I missing something or is Gps that great . I can't see the advantages. Maybe you guys can straighten me out. THanks for any comments.
IMO, SS would be close to useless without GPS. How would you know where something was?
I can't even imagine fishing without 2 GPS units in the boat anymore. I'd expect the SI may use the GPS to put the picture together. It would be like walking around in the dark trying to find something you saw on SS if you couldn't mark a waypoint and go to it.
I bet the units without GPS wouldn't sale. If you're going to buy a unit with all those other features why not GPS? Kind of like a 4 cyl. Corvette. Just doesn't make sense to build it.
a 2d depth finder without GPS is what you are after. Like Catfan said, it would be pointless, and a complete waste of money. I'd probably give up everything else, just to have GPS.
in the old days we would find brush or lay downs plum by accident, then tell a friend, mark a tree on one bank, another waypoint on another bank and line them up and try to find them at a later time.. Today your friend is an electronic device,,, make it a close friend and treat it well, it will serve you well and not ask much in return,,,,
X2 you sure are right about that....GPS is a true friendQuote:
Originally Posted by beagle man
Yes, GPS is that great. Simply put, it gives you the ability to return to the objects that you found with your SI/DI. No need to try to remember where your spots are and hope you can find them again.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie1133
Gps is one thing that if you ever use it, you'll have to have one. Besides showing the creek and river channel's, you will eventually stay out too long, or something happens to keep you after dark, they are worth their weight. I have left out early, and as soon as I leave bank the fog sets in. Punch a couple of buttons and find yesterdays log, and follow it to honey hole. Really good in a stumpy lake where you have been once before, and can follow your old route. Wouldn't do without mine. Handier than pockets on a shirt.
I cant imagine how we ever fished all the years with out the gps. This is one example. We have a few stumps on a flat in the middle of the lake. In my boat we can be on them in a few seconds. My cousin does not have gps but has been with me on this spot many times and thought he had it triangulated perfect. He spent 2 hours looking for the stumps out of his boat and never did find them. Do you really want to risk finding a gold mine and not be able to get back on it? Get the gps, you will be glad you did.
probly woudnt have a lower unit if i didnt have a gps unit i fish truman and new to the lake it helps alot plus you can mark all your honey holes and go back a year from know and not forget about em there mark for somthing god or bad its great thing to have
A GPS is a tool. I compare it to a calculator and piece of paper or a scope on a rifle or a spare to a map and compass. I learned to shoot squirrels with open sights, and learned to read a map with a compass. I learned to add with a pencil and paper. I learned to mark brush with land marks (and I still do) but, a GPS is quicker and leaves less second guessing. Don't rely to heavily on GPS and remember it's only a tool that is as good as the operator using it. With that said, I would NOT turn any of my bear hounds loose with out GPS collars around there neck. LOL!!!
So what fish finder are you upgrading from?Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie1133
How about folks that like two separate units? I like to have an individual GPS and a sonar. I don't like splitting screens. I have a 798 HB and a separate GPS. With the extra costs going into the 798 for GPS, I'd of rather seen them soup up the sonar. PS Before I had my 798, I had a 778 linked to my GPS. So I could do all the things a combo unit could do, without splitting screens.
Ihave a Lowrance x-510 c on a Tracker PF 17 stick steer with transducers on the transom and trolling motor and a switch tro toggle back and forth.What about putting SI on the trolling motor? Will it worlk O.K.?
A little story about GPS. I was at lake talquin in Florida and its a shallow stumpy lake.....We followed a boat out from the ramp cause we didnt have any idea where the running channel was...While we were out fishing a storm rolled in and the waves got BIG so we couldnt see the logs and stumps that were sticking out of the water when we went out that morning....We were fortunate that the Eagle FF had Gps and just followed our track back to ramp......Its priceless in situations like this......
You could always use a sextant instead. No drain on your battery.
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I learned to use one when I started sailing many moons ago. Then Loran came out, then GPS. I still have the sextant but haven't used it in more than 20 years. I'm not even sure you can still buy the yearly tables needed.
Don't see where the side imaging would be that useful without the GPS. You mark a spot 75' to your left and it places a waypoint there (can't be done without GPS), you travel right to the spot. Without the GPS, you see it on the screen, try to remember how far over it was, turn around get closer and closer until you are over the top of it, throw a marker, triangulate with the bank. Come back next time, start over again.
I will say I used to be pretty good at triangulating until I started using GPS. Saves alot of headache and time. To answer your question, for the normal extra $100, it is worth it and now a neccessity to me.
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Originally Posted by bdorman
You can still get the tables. BTW They make plastic sextants in china now. ha
Coming from a non-GPS fish finder, I can understand why you don't really want GPS. But with the newer technologies out, GPS will help you get back to the same spot if there is nothing from shore you can reference. I personally don't like SI on the trolling motor because if you make any turns, that will distort the image if I was to go back and replay the recording. I have never gotten a real clean SI image going 1mph with a trolling motor. Something always messes up my direction going that slow.
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Originally Posted by crappie1133
I have seen some images from some humminbirds with the transducer mounted on the trolling motor that were outstanding. it may take a little adjusting, but you can make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie1133
If you just wanted to look out to the side for maybe fish or struture under a boat dock then gps would not be needed.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong....Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie1133
If all HDS units can be upgraded with the LSS-1 Structure Scan to add SI and DI to a HDS base unit....
Could it be possible that the Lowrance HDS 5x (no GPS) with the LSS-1 .....obtain 2d/DI/SI...(no GPS)..??
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