A long read but worth it

I have never heard this said as plain or as well. Class war at its best.

The folks who are getting the free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff, can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.

And,

The folks who are paying for the free stuff, want the free stuff to stop and the folks who are getting the free stuff,
want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!

Now... The people who are forcing the people who Pay for the free stuff, have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

So... the people who are GETTING the free stuff, have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff, by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place.

We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.

Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.

The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 231 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that in 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it.

ELECTION 2012 IS COMING

A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!

I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!!

Let’s Take a Stand!!!


Obama: Gone!

Borders: Closed!

Language: English only

Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!

Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!

NO freebies to: Non-Citizens!

We the people are coming!!!

Only 86% will send this on. Should be a 100%. What will you do?

You got my vote!

Great post, WolfmanJack! We MUST return to the Constitution or we are doomed. We'll look just like the EU! No thanks.:mad:

The authors of these things have such a great understanding of how the government works, and complain about things that are the least of our problems, but where are the ideas and solutions to fix the country. Voting has very little impact on fixing anything, I think we've shown that over many campaigns. So the overall theme of this BS chainletter, is to vote. We'll that's good for all of us I suppose, but what is that going to fix next time around that it hasn't for the last 5 times?

I guess you'll have to keep voting then. Like I will do and hopefully everyone else to get somebody in there who will actually do something. And hopefully this overall BS chainletter will make some more people angry and frustrated,, and to the people who the jest of this chainletter was written for will understand there is only so much milk in a teat....

Not much to say here.

The author of that letter could have been older than a 7th or 8th grade. Billd2626 was actually onto something with his comment before he deleted it. High School government class covers enough that we should know that one person in our government doesn't have supreme power to screw up, or fix the problem. That letter shouldn't incite anyone, it should make you question the author. I'd love to see the cost alone to drug screen welfare recipients, and would that include corporate welfare recipients?

At least the letter could offer up a recommendation for who to vote for, or which party, I mean, anything at all? Boot out the lobbyists, and let our elected leaders make decisions based on what's best for the country, not which company is filling their pockets. Then we'll be heading somewhat in the right direction.

If thats the case I'm voting for this 7 or 8th grader,as he's shown he's more qualified than what we have in there right now.

Well for every letter, there's responses going around. Here's one from the interweb.

We all own the air and the clean land with fat deer and the drinkable water; the people who "own all the stuff" forget that we all own America and the 99% of US is tired of THEM (the 1%) getting "free stuff."They get all the free stuff because they make the tax laws and they cut the environmental regulations; hedge fund managers pay lower tax rates than plumbers. Who's getting free stuff? GE and a bunch of other multinational companies haven't paid ANY taxes in three years! Who's getting the free stuff? Taxes are at the lowest rate in 50 years and the gap between the poor and the wealthy is the widest it's ever been; who's getting the free stuff?1% own 40% of America: who's getting the free stuff? Rich people don’t go to jail: who's getting the free stuff? That free room and board for minor drug charges that rich people will never get? Is that "free stuff"?They get all the free stuff because the bankers and elites who "own all the stuff" bet all the stuff on the stock market and on derivatives, lost their bets and lost grandma's savings, and then had the Fed and the US gov give them 16 TRILLION dollars (the GDP of the entire US is only a fraction of that.) They were "too big to fail," yet they failed, and failed hard, and failed wide. They were made good, at a cost of several times the entire U.S GDP; we spent almost a third of the entire wealth the US had accumulated in its 200+ year history and blew it all away to make Wall Street's gambling debts good; who's getting the "free stuff"? Do you know how many food stamps and welfare that 16 trillion dollars will buy? Who's getting the "free stuff"?

The people who have all the stuff are making all the laws to benefit them at our expense: they want to spit crap into the air for free and make us peasants breathe it, they want to have cheap labor on demand, with no unions and "right-to-work" states ("right-to-work for the lowest possible price"), they want to rip up mountains for coal and not have to bother with pesky regulations that hurt "job creators." They want extra, extra tax breaks to build a factory in your area or they want to move their factories to the lowest paying countries, while selling their crap back to us. Who's getting the free stuff?
Do you know how many food stamps and welfare that 16 trillion dollars will buy? Who's getting the "free stuff"? Don’t even get me started on the corporate welfare we fund through the Defense Department. Are BAE and GD [two very large defense contractors] getting "free stuff" in your professional opinion?
And as to the laundry list of complaints: many of these are very ironic.
Borders: Deportations under President Obama are at the highest they've ever been under any President. As a liberal, I see that as a bad thing; the conservative rally to "Close the borders" means a check mark to vote FOR Obama.
Language: English only. The US has no official language, by the way.http://www.usconstitution.net/.... Another check mark for Obama. Let's not forget that there are a bunch of Hispanics that live in this country quite legally and who aren't going anywhere. We can pretend that they all speak English, or we can just quit moaning about having to press one for English. Unless there's a Spanish test that we're all forced to pass, honestly, what's the big deal?
Drugs: Obama is still cracking down on medical marijuana dispensaries in states where it's supposed to be legal (another thing I would have against him but that checks the conservative desire to see the War-On-Some-Drugs-That-Poor-People-Use). When do Defense Contractors get drug tested? When do hedge funds managers get drug tested before they receive their corporate welfare and are taxed under lower rates than teachers and plumbers?
Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!. Er, President Obama is a constitutional scholar and was a Harvard-grad Law Professor at U of Chicago...Any specifics gripes about how he's usurped his Authority as President (that would not also apply to either of the Bushes or Reagan)?
Also, unless you're counting Greece, which invented democracy and then didn't have it for a few thousand years, the US is pretty much the oldest functioning democracy around. It's hard to compare us to other democracies. The phrase "All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded" is somewhat silly. What democracies are they referring to?
Who's getting the "Free Stuff"? The 99% of us or the 1% who make the laws and "own all the stuff"?

To quote what you posted. "The people who have all the stuff are making all the laws to benefit them at our expense: they want to spit crap into the air for free and make us peasants breathe it, they want to have cheap labor on demand, with no unions and "right-to-work" states ("right-to-work for the lowest possible price"), they want to rip up mountains for coal and not have to bother with pesky regulations that hurt "job creators." They want extra, extra tax breaks to build a factory in your area or they want to move their factories to the lowest paying countries, while selling their crap back to us. Who's getting the free stuff?"

Have you ever had a poor man offer you a job????? Nobody is twisting your arm to work for anybody. Go at it on your own in business and lets see what happens, your opinion might change...

I've been voting for change every election for the last eight years. The folks I've been voting for never win.
If the country wants a change, it won't come at the hands of the Dems and Repubs.
Both are the parties of bigger and more invasive government. The evidence is clear from the last two administrations.
Same stuff different years.
And the drum beats on.
I agree both Social and Corporate Welfare needs to be severly cut. The country cannot sustain much more debt. Monetizing will only make things worse for the Middle Class.

I did what you did, posted something said by someone else. But if this is the one thing that you take exception to, then I'd say it was a good find. So would your opinion be that Lobbyists are good as long as you can get a job, companies can do whatever they want? Maybe a new sewage treatment company could be started at LOZ and create 50 new jobs, but the catch is that any sewage that is filtered out is dumped right into the lake. Sound ok?

I also assume that the companies that are doing the fracking for natural gas is ok too, even though they are ruining the water for everyone in the area. Flammable tap water, oh that's ok. I guess the increased cancer rates and illness creates medical jobs?

Whats next???? Maybe you can get on the PETA bandwagon while your at it...lol

If it was your land, your water, and your family getting sick and dying, you wouldn't be laughing. I'm making certain assumptions when I say that.

Y'know where this would be an excellent discussion?

PMs.

Lest we get a separate subforum for political soapboxing. Just sayin'.

Believe me, I'm all for these types of discussions, and would love to engage in them. I just don't think anyone gets the kind of traction they want out of posting it in this forum.

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If you don't like it, don't read it.

I wish I had never seen it.

I'm not forcing you to read it.

a wise man once said IT WILL GET BETTER, and I know for a fact everything I ever needed to know about everything was taught to me int the first grade,,,


think about that, then debate,,,,, debait to me means no minnows

I'd rather be fishing Beagle. Kindergarten or not, you are a gem.