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I have a Matrix 12 on my boat and just ordered a 798 si unit. they will be mounted next to each other.
I have heard that they can be connected so they share info. But I don't know what info would be shared and what benifit it would be?
BTW, I read something about SI unit needs different trans for high speed, but I am not sure my (mat 12) transducer will work with it..??
not sure about the info sharing but i have one transducer setup on my 998. humminbird does offer a high speed transducer that you can use to. with the one transducer that i use 45 mph seems to be my top reliable speed ,but i can reach speeds to 50 but not all of the time. heres a picture of transducer location and a snapshot in use.( oh by the way the processor does a very good job with the navionics card. 65 mph is about as fast as i run and the navigation screen keeps me updated at all zoom levels even down to the 10 ft. scale )Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyCharlie
Its on a little tracker.. 35 top end (maybe)
I really don't know, but I though just I read a post of yours saying the transducer was different on the 798ci-si and 998 si ?
( so much reading, info overload-- this was my reason to post just on my units)
edit: BTW thanks for info Kosmo, you really help out alot of people here!
I just thought of way it could help
My matrix12 has on front panel--GPS capable-- S0,, I wonder if it can be used to display the GPS (info from 798) and the 798 just show SI?
( or vice-versa)
I think Greg (Humminbird) is going on vacation but he probably still checks his work email...He can probably help you with your question....Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyCharlie
This is his work email.... [email protected]
Thanks, email sent
i properly should leave the technical stuff about these transducers and such to the experts like humminbird greg. all that i can really do is show you my setup and comment on it. i will go on to say that im very pleased with my humminbird units that ive got and really appreciate the help that ive got from the humminbird community and i try to give back as best that i can. now rickie just posted that huminbird greg is starting vacation, his wife properly not going to let him on the computer.Quote:
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Kosmo;Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
do you have your 'ducer on the "step" under your transom on your boat ?? Did you mount it in the normal way, drilling a hole ??
Jimp, he shows mount in pic a few post back... (I may have miss-understood your question?)
( his pic looks alot like my sportcraft's transom)
heres a tip . if you do mount your transducer in similar fashion . if your not getting readings at high speeds,tilt the back of the transducer down.
one more thing, to keep from running my transducer wire along the outside of my boat.i used the livewell overflow hole thats just above the transducer
mounted in front of the step.its right beside the drain hole.yes i did drill holes,i also had to trim some off of the top of the stainless steal mounting brackit.this was to get the transducer up high enough so it would just be below the bottom of the boat and not to far to get snagged on anything.this setup is on 2005triton bass boatQuote:
Originally Posted by jimp
I'm just guessing here but the GPS signal from the puck can be sent to the Matrix 12 using the NEMA cable so it can display GPS information while the 798 displays SONAR.
If the Matrix 12 supports Interlink, you can share waypoints, tracks, and routes between the units by adding and setting up Interlink. May be some software version issues to overcome if linking the two units is even possible.
Greg can get you straight.
Not going on vacation Kosmo but got back off of vacation late last week (and have been trying to catch up on missed work ever since…). As for my wife not letting me on the computer: Ha! I would like to see her try! (She does not read this forum so I think I am safe in saying that here!]
HeyCharlie,
Got your e-mail. Whether you can share data from the Matrix 12 to the 798 unit will depend on two things:
1.) What is the exact 798 model that you have
2.) What is the software version that your 798 unit is running.
I need to know this as the only possible option would be to use the InterLink accessory module. This would allow the sharing of Waypoints and Routes between units. If the 798 unit you have is one of the newer 798ci HD Si units or if the software version you are running is version 5.310 or higher then there is a compatibility issue and it will not work.
On some boats the larger HDSi transducer used by the 898c Si, 997c Si, 998c Si, 1197c Si and 1198c Si units cannot always be mounted in a location that will give both a good high-speed depth reading and good Si sonar readings. This is also true of the Compact Side Imaging (CSi) transducer that came with your 798 unit though to a lesser extent. On most fiberglass boats the best option is to install a second 2D sonar only transducer inside-the-hull for the best possible high-speed readings. This allows the more expensive to replace Si transducers to be mounted in a more secure location that will help protect them from damage. Consider that the cost to replace the CSi transducer that your 798 uses is about $185 plus shipping and tax (the larger HDSi transducer used by the larger Si units runs about $270 plus shipping and tax) while the cost to add a second 2D only transducer plus the AS-Si-DB-Y cable needed to make the connection is only about $86 to $95 (depending on transducer model purchased) plus shipping and tax. Many see this as more of an insurance against breaking their Si transducer should they hit a rock, stump or floating debris.
If you are using the standard DualBeam transducer with your Matrix 12 than it will work with your new 798 unit as a highs-speed transducer. This would allow you to mount the CSi transducer in a location that will offer better protection for it and possibly better Si sonar as well.
You could use the NMEA Output from the 798 unit to the Matrix 12 unit so the Matrix 12 unit will show GPS as PanMan_VA stated. No data will be shared between the units and the 798 unit would have to be on for the Matrix 12 to have GPS. If you want to do this just let me know and I will give you the cable to buy and wiring details. This can be added at any time so there is no rush to have to do it to begin with.
the 798ci SI is new, the matrix 12 is @3yrs old if that helps. I had planned to mount the unit in boat right away but Boss made plan changes for me. Guess I can connect it to may car batt and see what software its running if needed.
Yes, I am hoping the matrix12 transducer ( came standard with unit) can be used for high speed on 798 .. and the GPS can be displayed on mat12.
So, you need me to give you software ver ,,, Anything else?
Remember Greg only logs on here once every day or so...
If you need a quicker reply from him... Use his work email in his signature...
Greg's a gem... I don't know what we would do without him...
Rickie
Actually I am trapped in my office today. I have someone I am supposed to be supervising for today and so cannot go work on some of the other projects that I need to.
Yes on the Matrix 12 transducer.
Yes also on needing the software version. Even though the unit may be new to you; it could have been on a shelf or in a warehouse for a few years.
Nothing else is needed.
I shared info from my Garmin GPS to my Humminbird 778C sonar, which was also "GPS capable". The problem is, it will not show any mapping, just position, speed, time etc. It will also show boat direction and course, but only on a blank back drop screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyCharlie
shellback, Thank you for that input-- It was the type that is very nuch needed! this is what i thought I read somewhere before, if no map is shown its really not going to be worth my time doing it --I do have Garmin GPS with map-on boat also. ( hoped to remove)
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Originally Posted by HeyCharlie
HeyCharlie, don't do it..Doh....You will wish you had it back if you do...