How do You guys put eyes on a jig so You don't have to worry about them coming off? special glue, cover paint? Thanks.CF
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How do You guys put eyes on a jig so You don't have to worry about them coming off? special glue, cover paint? Thanks.CF
It depends on the eyes; stick-on's you'll really need a good sealant. I haven't found or know of a glue for the stick-on's. About the best way is to paint them on, unless you have recessed eye sockets or a flat surface. And they all need a sealant for preservation. Sally Hard as nails is good for most, except powder paint green flavors, then I use Seal-Coat, 2-3X. The liquid paints are far better for eyes. If ya find a better way to skin this cat, post it for us all. For just a single color you can use sharpies, even on powder, just put them on before you cure in the oven.
Crappiefarmer Glad to see you back been a long time. I like to paint mine on and then cover with a coat of clear lacquer. Skip has a formula the requires MEK and clear lacquer mixed 50/50. Dries fast and does a good job. I do like to use Sally Hanson's Hard as Nails on top of that for added protection. I put on the Sally Hanson's right after I get done with the tying. That seals every thing down tight.
Redman
These will be stick ons. So You guys are saying the sealant will help hold the eyes on? Do you dip the jigs in it or brush it on? CF
I know a lot of the fellows use super glue to attach them and then paint ( really clear seal them ) over them with a brush. I have some but still like my hand painted eyes.
Redman
I use the made glue just for a drop on the chenille where it's finished, but use Sally Henson's for a clear coat over eyes except for FL Yellow and FL Chart which Sally's will change the color and for that I use Clear Vinyl.
I paint my eyes and uses a cheap set of drill bits that have a flat end. Use one about half the size of the first color to put on the black pupil. I use Acrylic outdoor paint from walmart. Maybe if I used Testers I wouldn't need a clear coat, but have not tried that yet, but have wanted to for probably 3 years. Just have not.
Ugh, missed the part about stick on eyes. Your gonna need something like epoxy that will coat over the entire thing. I wouldn't do that unless I bought jig heads with eye sockets and I don't.
Skip
If you are Powder Painting .... before you make the final bake stick the eyes on and then bake.
To really do it up right after baking is to use epoxy glue and coat the entire head.
JSC
Are you sure the stick on eyes will take the heat of the oven at 400 degrees? That is what temp I use for most colors.Quote:
Originally Posted by JSC
stick on eyes do not do well on round heads. Skip testers will come off easily if not clear coated.
"Are you sure the stick on eyes will take the heat of the oven at 400 degrees? That is what temp I use for most colors."
I do it all the time (not at a full 400 degrees but from what I have seen should be OK) .. no harmful effect to the eyes ... They do work better on "Flat" surfaces .... Smaller eyes work on Round Heads ... "To really do it up right after baking is to use epoxy glue and coat the entire head."
JSC
Thanks, saved me from buying so to try and will stick to the acrylic since both have to be clear coated.Quote:
Originally Posted by jusanothajoe
jusanothajoe, yes the eyes don't do well on a ball head and I use mostly ball heads other than minnow heads anyway. I pretty much just use stick on type on a few jig heads I got for personal use and flies.
Skip
Vinyl paint applied with two different sized drill bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiefarmer
I hand paint eyes using the ends of drill bits. Give them 24 hours to cure. I dip them in 2 part epoxy (get mine from Do It Corp.) and let them cure another 24 hours. Works good for me. (use plastic baby food containers to mix and dip my jigs in) You want something small so you aren't wasting a lot of epoxy. A little goes a very long way.
Also hang them on a wire rack, they will drip so use a small piece of carboard or paper to touch the bottom and get the little drop of epoxy that will form there within seconds.
The Testors does come off without a cover coat. I use sally but you have to be quick. Different colors run and will smear if you spend too long with the brush. The wife always said she liked my eyes.Doh
The recessed eyes work well for me with paint. I fill the recess with the base color and then dot the center, they look good.
The Sally Hansons will smear powder coat painted jigs?CF
CF the only problem I have had is when I tried to cheap out and thinned Sally Hanson's with acetone. Other wise I haven't been bothered with any smearing at all. This is just my experience for what its worth. But I have done over a 1,500 in the last 6 months. Nothing else to do during the drought.
Redman
Thanks Redman.CFQuote:
Originally Posted by Redman
I can't use Sally's on Fl Yellow or FL Chartreuse because it changes the color so for just these 2 colors I use Clear Vinyl or if I just put Black on I use Vinyl as Black is maybe the only Vinyl that needs no under coat and is shinny and not flat.
Skip
Now, that sounds as if she really loves your eyes. You have got a keeper!Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
One thing about the use of the different top coats ... Epoxy is the only one that is not attacked by soft plastics ... Just a heads up on that ... Powder Paint by its self is not attacked by Soft Plastic as well.
JSC