HB Side Imaging vs HDS Structure Scan...

A while back when I was researching HB SI and HDS SS... I ran across these images. It is a pretty good comparison in the images. I don't believe there is THAT much difference in the two if you know how to use it and set it up correctly. You have to get the settings right on both units for it to work right. Okay you HDS guys.. Post up some images for comparison. I have about 800 HB side image snapshots I can post but I have seen very little real world HDS screen shots. Lets see em.. Not sure why yall are holding on to them.

I am convinced from my research that HDS beats HB in the DI category and might have a slight edge on the side imaging but that has yet to be proven to me since real world images are scarce to say the least.

These seem very comparable... The next group of pictures look bias to me
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...vLowrance5.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...vLowrance4.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...vLowrance1.jpg
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...vLowrance6.jpg

These pictures seem bias. They chose to show the 800khz HB DI. The 800 khz DI on the HB is not great.. The 455 khz DI is much better. Take a look. You notice they pick the worse HB DI to compare to the Lowrance HDS.
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...vLowrance2.jpg
HB 800khz
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/HB800kHz.jpg
HB 455khz
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/HB455kHz.jpg

DoubleG

seems like a bit of marketing/advertising going on. Who sponsors that site the pics came from, or who advertises the most on it? All the pics are great, but the HDS does seem sharper/clearer images, but could be the difference in freq. I'm still learning on this stuff.

Amazing stuff Zack, thanks for sharing.

Zack, was the factory setting on yours at 455 or 800? just looking at mine and yours, mine must be at 800. the 455 shows more of a real feel look of things

Jimp - I am not real sure.. I just got them from doing a google search for pictures. They are pretty neat but I am sure they were used for marketing. It looks like a pretty good comparison though. I have seen others do a comparison and they were really poor. They didn't have their settings dialed in good so of course one looked better than the other...

DD - My 898 took better images on 800 khz... For some reason my 1198 takes better images on 455khz. The 455 khz is great for DI also but I hardly ever use DI. The default should be 455 khz.

DoubleG

I haven't really played with any of the settings cept the color and speed. Guess I need to get busy and start messing with it

Double I sent you a pm

Pm back at ya torch...

Speed is the biggie.... The range you scan is next... If looking for fish you don't want to scan too wide. Next is sharpness which I usually have on low or medium... Sensitivity and contrast I don't mess with much.

I change my speed all the time...

Look 2Gobble00, you're gonna have to get with the program on pitchur posting....or else. PM SteveJ...He can help you with it.

Wannabe...

I kinda like the way he posted it, I can actually see it hehe

They look good to meThumbs Up maybe you need to get with the program on picture viewing.Rofl

Weird, but I can see some of them now.

Anyhow, that first pic of SI shows exactly what I'm experiencing with HD SI. On the bird SI, note you can make detail all the way to the left edge of the pic out to 100', but on the HD SI next to it, you only get detail for the first 50' or so. I'm consistently seeing that and while the detail is superb, I'm missing 1/2 the pic. I keep thinking it's a setting or something, but there is no denying the the Bird allowed me to see further at a given depth.

Wannabe...

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Originally Posted by Wannabe...

Weird, but I can see some of them now.

Anyhow, that first pic of SI shows exactly what I'm experiencing with HD SI. On the bird SI, note you can make detail all the way to the left edge of the pic out to 100', but on the HD SI next to it, you only get detail for the first 50' or so. I'm consistently seeing that and while the detail is superb, I'm missing 1/2 the pic. I keep thinking it's a setting or something, but there is no denying the the Bird allowed me to see further at a given depth.

Wannabe...

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That is real interesting. I remember you mentioning that a while back. I wonder if it is due to the angle the crystals are aimed or just the power is real high in the center and it washed everything else out? I bet it would work better in deeper water.. Is that true?

I think it has to do with the angle of the signal, in my opinion. Nothing I do seems to clear it up very much although running the contrast up helps to a point. Dunno...but I didn't go HDS for SI. Maps, DI and 2D are.

Here's da rub on your pics above...they're all in really deep water except the first pic and that is concrete which gives very good signal return. In my experience....20ft or less 90% of the time and 10' or less 40% of the time, ya just ain't gonna get them kind of pics.

Wannabe...

You are right.. The DI is much better with HDS since is has dedicated crystal. The 2D..probably so.. The Maps... from what i have heard they are much better. I have not seen them. I keep hoping HB will get some lakemaster maps for the Southern states... I can hope right? ha.

So do you use your DI and 2D the majority of the time? I get really good SI pictures in 10 to 20 feet of water with the HB. I mainly only use SI. I use 2D and DI to get fish depth and DI helps distinguish the fish better than 2D... other than that.. I never use 2D or DI.

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/S00741-1.png

DoubleG

Here is a shallow image of a tree with fish on it using HDS8

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Here are the gates at El Dorado Lake

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Lowrance Pro-Staff Kansas

A'ite Shane....that's a seriously whacked out color scheme right there. I don't care who ya are. I must have missed the Andy Warhol color pallete option in the menu. Bwahahaha.

2GobbleBuckshot, Normally, I run the 8 up front when spider rigging with all 4 screens showing. I pick and choose where I get info and scan all the screens for anything interesting. I also frequently watch the 2D (front ducer, then as I move forward, watch the DI to compare the images produced. I'm always scanning SI for anything worthy of turning the boat for and watching the maps as well.

Wannabe...