Need help ---->Siding removal question

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08-15-2011, 08:16 AM
C N

Need help ---->Siding removal question

Have aluminum siding on the majority of the house and Dad put vinyl on an addition 30 years later. Doh Don't ask. Just go with it. I'm going to be painting the house soon and want to replace a BOTTOM piece of both the vinyl and the aluminum due to damage before I paint. (It's too damaged to just cut out a piece and repair.) I know siding is put on from the bottom up (corrected my OOOPS) and have done some internet research and most advice talks about using a zip tool for the vinyl siding. Do I need this? I have new replacement pieces for both the aluminum and vinyl(because thankfully my Dad saved everything) so don't have to worry about damaging either piece during removal. The vinyl section I need to replace is only about 18" long. The aluminum is 8' long. Does the zip tool work for aluminum, too?

Any tips for removing both kinds (bottom piece)? Do I need a zip tool? If not, what do I need? Where can I get the tool if I do need it? Lowes?

Any help is much appreciated as I will be doing this project myself. :(
08-15-2011, 08:27 AM
majflyboy

I'll see if I can get EZ on this one.
08-15-2011, 08:34 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by majflyboy

I'll see if I can get EZ on this one.

Thanks, Master! :)
08-15-2011, 08:35 AM
Billbob

i think the sideing is put on FROM THE BOTTOM TO TOP just like shingles
08-15-2011, 08:38 AM
majflyboy

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Originally Posted by billbob

i think the sideing is put on FROM THE BOTTOM TO TOP just like shingles

EZ and I both agree with you on that. Kitten, you may want to double check that.
08-15-2011, 08:50 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by majflyboy

EZ and I both agree with you on that. Kitten, you may want to double check that.

I typed it wrong, sorry. I know that the bottom strip is the first piece so wondered if there was a trick to get off the first piece without removing it from the top down. SORRY!
08-15-2011, 08:50 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by billbob

i think the sideing is put on FROM THE BOTTOM TO TOP just like shingles

You're right. I was thinking one thing and typing another. I didn't want to have to remove it all to get the bottom piece replaced. :(
08-15-2011, 08:51 AM
4THETHUMP

Ok , i'm no expert , but you should be able to cut your piece of vinyl and take the bad out and the new in . It should have a starter strip on the bottm . It all should just snap together . It is put on from the bottom up . The zipper tool is a thin metal piece with a little flat hook like in the end . It hooks the bottom so you can pull it open to get the piece out . Yo ucan push the new piece under and hook the top then snap the bottom over the starter strip . I hope it helps some .
08-15-2011, 08:56 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by 4THETHUMP

Ok , i'm no expert , but you should be able to cut your piece of vinyl and take the bad out and the new in . It should have a starter strip on the bottm . It all should just snap together . It is put on from the bottom up . The zipper tool is a thin metal piece with a little flat hook like in the end . It hooks the bottom so you can pull it open to get the piece out . Yo ucan push the new piece under and hook the top then snap the bottom over the starter strip . I hope it helps some .

I've seen pics of the ziptool. So I need it for the vinyl? Will it also work on the aluminum?
08-15-2011, 09:03 AM
4THETHUMP

I don't know about the aluminum . And i being hard headed as my wife says i would do it without the zipper tool . You know with a screw driver and a hammer . If you can cut it you can get it out . I have handled a lot and put up a little . But the tool shouldn't be much . They are probably about the same .
08-15-2011, 09:06 AM
gabowman

Here's something you can read...............but youre not going to like it.:(

Replacing Aluminum Siding Panels - DIY Home Improvement, Remodeling & Repair Forum
08-15-2011, 09:14 AM
C N

I think the tool is less than $10 online. I just had hoped to do it without driving 40 miles to get the durn tool. I live in the middle of nowhere.
08-15-2011, 09:18 AM
4THETHUMP

I do too . I try to get my stuff done when i go in to work . When you cut to replace you can cut it wit ha skill saw . Turn your blade around backwards . If you can get the bottom unhooked you want need the tool .
08-15-2011, 09:18 AM
C N

but, but, but......... :(

Wonder if I could cheat somehow and cut off the top edge and cover the bottom piece with the new piece and caulk it at the top edge and nail it on the bottom to hold it up. I don't want to try to take down the entire side by myself. Then you might have to add me to ES's team

:(
08-15-2011, 10:24 AM
torch

Accelerator + Match lol
08-15-2011, 11:36 AM
talltimber

You won't need the tool for the vinyl. A sixteen penny nail bent at a ninety degree about an inch down from the end will do. Might have to use pliers to hold the nail while pulling (to disconnect the bottom lip from the starter strip) The aluminum might be a whole nuther deal. I've never messed with it.
08-15-2011, 11:54 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by torch

Accelerator + Match lol

There are so many things that come to mind, Torch. Rofl

Pfffffffffffffffft @ Torch!
08-15-2011, 11:56 AM
C N

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Originally Posted by talltimber

You won't need the tool for the vinyl. A sixteen penny nail bent at a ninety degree about an inch down from the end will do. Might have to use pliers to hold the nail while pulling (to disconnect the bottom lip from the starter strip) The aluminum might be a whole nuther deal. I've never messed with it.

I just knew someone would have a trick!!! Thanks so much!

The thing that stinks is the vinyl is the lesser of the evils. I'll have to get the box down and take out the replacement piece and see if I can figure a way to "rig" it without removing the aluminum.
08-15-2011, 12:56 PM
EmptyStringer

Try this How do you get rid of shingles
08-15-2011, 01:10 PM
4THETHUMP

There ain't no easy way to get rid of the shingles . Worst thing i ever had . And i don't think it will help with her siding problem .
08-15-2011, 03:06 PM
C N

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Originally Posted by EmptyStringer

Try this How do you get rid of shingles

Rofl...... now you've done it, ES! Coworker walking by my office with me laughing uncontrollably..... Ooops! You are such a big help! Thanks! Rofl
08-15-2011, 03:15 PM
C N

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Originally Posted by 4THETHUMP

There ain't no easy way to get rid of the shingles . Worst thing i ever had . And i don't think it will help with her siding problem .

Yeah, this siding problem isn't painful yet. Wait till I get out there and TRY to fix it, though. I might be on ES's team with an epic failure of my own. I'll try to take some before pics and hopefully the after photo will be an improvement and will have not required me to travel to the ER for some reason.