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Have you ever seen a Poisonous Snake in Indiana?
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Yep,,,walk in the weeds and your eventually steping on a copperhead around me,,,lots of them,,and I have even seen timber rattlers around here. I have 3 black snakes occasionally crawling under the house and thats fine by me,,they kill copperheads.
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Copperheads . I know we have rattlers around us but have never seen one. Hope it stays that way.
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That first video was an interesting piece, since I live in this area. I've always heard there was a rattlesnake den fairly close to the campground in BC state park and most campers don't know about it. While growing up, I knew kids that seem to cross paths with Rattlesnakes quite often. Some lived just outside the southern edge of the park like near Gravel Creek, and others lived around Nebo and Berry Ridge areas. It was quite common for them to spot rattlesnakes around their homes each summer. I've never seen one myself....but occasional copperheads. If I smell cucumbers and I am not in the garden, I go on high alert !!!
HHD
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city boy in the country
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Originally Posted by
Hoosier Hog Daddy
If I smell cucumbers and I am not in the garden, I go on high alert !!!
HHD
Why cucumbers? Interesting
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Years ago,,,got into a den of copperheads mating in the springtime,,that is when they are meanest..you really need to be aware of your surroundings mushroom hunting southern indiana..also a friend of mine killed a timber rattler,,in the residential district of Shoals,,about 3.5 ft long ,,with a hoe,,as all the kids play in everybodys yards too,,and DNR came down after they found out about it and gave him a 150.00 ticket for killing an endagered species so you want to watch out eradicating any rattlers in Indiana. I killed one last yr. in my driveway,
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I had a conversation last month with a Game Warden down at Ferdinand State Forest and he actually told me Copperheads are extremely rare and that he hadn't seen on since he was a child. After viewing the videos, I believe the Game Warden's wrong. It seems that those videos were made by people who KNOW how and where to look for these poisonous snakes and they find them rather easily.
The one video seems to be done mostly at night, and they found a bunch in that segment. The amazing thing to me is how friggin big those Rattlesnakes get, I would sh!t my pants if I came across a five foot Rattler or a three foot Copperhead for that matter. Cottonmouths are known to exist in exactly one swampy area around Jasper, I find that hard to believe that they would be contained to just that particular area though.
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Nope, never have up in my neck of the woods. Although my Grandfather killed a rattler in the area back in the 50's.
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Brown Co State park camping area, copperhead. My uncle killed it right outside our camper door about 15 yrs ago.
Bassky
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I look at all snakes the same!
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Several years ago,,and all of this is in Martin Co..send that Game Warden down here,,I I can show him copperheads if he wants hunt for them on my 40 acres,,but several years ago,,while plowing a very old field on the hunt club I was a member of, as we decided to plant wild life food plots,,this field was only about 3 acres in the bottoms,,as I turned the furrows over,,wearing a 357 mag..I killed about 20 copperheads all the way up to 3.5 - 4ft long and super fat..every pass,,they would be laying on the furrows as looking like what happend...well,,I looked back around the single bottom plow,,and 2 of them were wrapped around it,,and I was plinking away at a steel plow freaking out,,as me and snakes just don't get along since Vietnam and encounters with all the pit vipers over there, as well as cobras in the jungles..South East Coral Sea snakes,,,all deadly posionous...but killing that rattler 2 yrs ago,,it was a small one,,so me and the GF have constantly had our eyes peeled all the time,,as you kill a small one,,there had to be a nest some where close, and I am still looking,,but we see copperheads every now and then,,just going to the mail box,,its why I keep the grass mowed so low,,they won't come into the yard with no cover. Anywhere you have weeds,,you have field mice,,and anywhere you have field mice,,you have snakes,,especially the copperheads,,stay out of the weeds,,and you won't have any problems,
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Originally Posted by
MarkFred2002
Why cucumbers? Interesting
Copperheads give off an odor that smells much like cucumbers.
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And,,in the summer,,,they will let you walk right up to them and almost step on them,,and won't move sometimes...I have walked thru weed fields down here,,and something tells me to look down,,and sure enough,.,my foot is less that a inch away from one..I just jump about 5 ft in the air, and run like heck,,as it freaks me out to this day,,now if I see one in front of me,,I can mess with it,,no problems,,I hate snakes,,and if they try and get in the boat,,,I am going to beat the snott out of them,,lol
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A good snake is a dead snake.:rolleyes:
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Snakes are my fav animal...I dont know why people are so scared of them....just leave them alone and they MOSTLY leave you alone :D
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I really see a need for snakes,,however,,poison ones,,have no place around me,,I once saw a 8 yr old vietnames girl,,after we had been hit by 2 typoons,,of which the second was a mother of a storm with 250 mph winds,,blew the ocean of South China Sea 35 miles inland and flooded everything for a couple of weeks,,she climbed into a bunker,,to get rice for the mom to cook,,and got bit by a South Coral Sea Snake,,we medivaced her,,but in 30 minutes,,she died,,,I also watched a South Vietnamese Popular Forces Soldier,,(kinda like our nat. guard that we trained,) Step on a 2 step viper,,as we had nicnamed it,,it was poisonous,,and he died in about 5 minutes,,they have no place in my book when we have other snakes that can take their places.
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Will not harm a non poisonous snake. If it is poisonous it will die. SSS (shoot, shovel, shut up)
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Martin County has some big rattlesnakes. I remember seeing pictures of a huge one killed maybe 15 years ago at somebody's cabin.
I've seen copperheads and rattlers both in Indiana over the years, but never seen a cottonmouth except in Kentucky. I've also heard that there are cottonmouths in Pike County, but I don't know that for a fact.
Most of Indiana is out of the range for most poisonous snakes except for the Massasauga Rattler, even though copperheads are pretty common in the southern part of the state.
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NW corner of the state we get an occassional timber rattler sighting up in the Dunes, and we have massasaugas occassionally seen in our many wetland and marshy areas. Some years back a nest of copperheads was found in Cedar Lake.
The one snake that causes the most problems up here is the brown water snake - normally it'll slither away from you, but once in awhile you run into an aggressive one. They're not poisonous, but if bitten, see a doctor asap - they live in stagnant water area and carry a lot of nasty germs, so it's extremely likely you end up with an extremely bad staph infection.
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uncle shot a 5' rattler, while we were squrrel hunting, somewhere around lagrange. that was back in the late 70s.
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gabowman
A good snake is a dead snake.:rolleyes:
Hands Clapping I second that!
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Every july back in the 80s we used to pick Catalpa Worms in Roselawn In. behind the Hooks drugstore. There were plenty of Rattlers there, havent been there in 30yrs. cause i dont fish catfish anymore.
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I have seen one copperhead in my life that was after it had struck at my son squirrel hunting after he had shot and not gotten a squirrel I asked if he misssed he took me too the snake there were a bunch of baby copperheads there which we left alone. Mushroom hunting about 9 years ago my weimeraner cornered a timber rattler in a brush pile. It kept striking at the dog but the dog seemed to know just how close to get. We let that one go too.
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NE corner here, seen little Mississauga rattlers at a couple of boat ramps sunning themselves. Thankfully copperhead-free after 58 years up here so far as I know.
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I saw this post when it started and had not replied to it... I have never seen a poisonous snake in indiana. Well was the harrison ohio/indiana border on the whitewater river with my boy at the motocross track. Being i love to fish walked over to the river and in the treatment plant discharge was a copperhead feeding on minnows! I will be on high alert now i saw that dude! Big and fat nasty snake! be on high alert now i saw that dude! Big and fat nasty snake!
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I saw a 4' cottonmouth on Monroe last weekend sunning itself on a log.
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DNR claims we don't have any cottonmouths in Indiana,,did it have the viper type head? That is what you have to look for in water type snakes. I am pretty sure,,I have never seen a cottonmouth in Indiana,,but have seen plenty in the south all the way down to Everglades where I have kayaked and canoed exploring parts of it.
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cevans
DNR claims we don't have any cottonmouths in Indiana,,did it have the viper type head? That is what you have to look for in water type snakes. I am pretty sure,,I have never seen a cottonmouth in Indiana,,but have seen plenty in the south all the way down to Everglades where I have kayaked and canoed exploring parts of it.
There are supposed to be a few in a swampy area of Dubois county but I have never seen one here.
Here is some info on our snakes.
http://herpcenter.ipfw.edu/outreach/...s/INsnakes.htm
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Dubois County is the only place in Indiana where a confirmed cottonmouth sighting has ever occurred...anyone who doesn't see a lot of big snakes, or is not familiar with the water snakes of Indiana I suppose could easily assume that the snake they saw was a cottonmouth, but rest assured, it wasn't.
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boilerfishin
I saw a 4' cottonmouth on Monroe last weekend sunning itself on a log.
After some research, it was a Northern Copperhead. My bad
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That is a common mistake. Don't feel bad about it.
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A lot of people see the Midland Water Snake, and say it is a Cottonmouth or other harmful snake.
Most people do not properly identify snakes, but some poeple do.
These types of snakes are growing in number and they will become more common in the near future.
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Raporter- great link for snake info. Thanks for sharing!
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What I saw was 100% a copperhead. I understand most people that are not familiar with snakes would mix the up trying to identify them but being only 12-15 ft away and looking at it for almost 10 minutes, I have no doubt it was a copperhead. Here is a pic of the two snakes. But its just like fishing stories... unless you have pictures its just a story.... LOL
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Northern Water Snake
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LOOK at this story from this JUNE 2011!
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-frank...,2536191.story
and the quote from INDIANA DNR: "DNR officials said the poisonous snake can be found in Franklin County where Zach got bit, however, sightings are uncommon."
Sightings are uncommon, but this is evidence they are here in indiana. Plus if it was a baby that bit him. Mom and Dad had to find each other to mate. Meaning there may be more out there than most people know...??? just food for thought!
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Do copperheads visit the water?
About 8 years ago killed a very aggressive snake, which i found out after examination had smallish thin curved fangs. I kept shooo'ing it away(after dark catfishing), but it simply refused to leave me be. After whacking it purty good with a stout stick, i figured i had changed his mind....a few minutes later, its right back at my feet, and not happy.
Needless to say, i left after that.
I had assumed it was a mocasin, and to date has been the only snake ive ever seen or found that wasnt just a typical water snake.
It is funny though, EVERYBODY has seen mocasins near water, i mean talk to anybody at the water, and they've all seen them, we must be over run with them...;)
Suposedly, many years ago(late fifties i think) a man was killed at whitewater memorial while swimming after being bitten numerous times from snakes in the water. I and countless others in this area have heard this story for years, any truth to it, i dunno, but a whole lotta folks, old and young have been told about it.
HB:cool:
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I have seen alot of copperheads swimming in water where I hunt in Indiana,,its a 700acre swamp,,damned by the beaver,,they swim! Last Sundays Bloominton/Bedford paper,,had a article in it, woman was hiking at Griffy Lake Preserve at Bloomington, and her Irish Setter got bitten by a 5' long timber rattler,,,and survived,,after she carried it out and took it to vet,,the medication used on the dog,,cost mim,,1200.00 and wasn't antivenom..you have to log in to read the article,,but it was pretty interesting.
Dog survives bite by timber rattlesnake at Griffy Lake Nature Preserve [log in]
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Hey Cevans the jerks at that rag want you to charge you to join, no thanks.
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Sorry about the jerks at the rag,,here is another link with a short story but not as detailed as the one I was hoping to bring up on the net,,I get the paper,,didn't know they charged..and i know I won't pay for it on line,,its not worth it.
bloomington - Indiana Home Street
I know right now,,the heat is drying things out,,and the snakes are moving closer to what water they can find,,and so are the deer,,had the kiddie pools out in the yard last nite from the grandkids no older than 4 that played in it,,and at 2 am the deer started coming out of the woods by the house,,drinking out of them,,now that is a first for me,,as where I live,,due to the hunting pressure,,there is no way to humanize the deer around me,,but they must be desparate enough for clean water to come within 20ft of my front door and drink from them,,I filled the 4 fter up beside the house where they came up for tonite. Will see what happens again,
