Well ifn' ya'll would have taken your mother to the hospital .........

for a procedure......... and when you are allowed back in recovery you find:

1. Her with a big fat upper lip on her left side
2. Container with one "real" tooth that somehow just FELL out during the procedure while she was under anesthesia and quietly sleeping.
3. Her with blood running out from beneath the bandage protecting the large skin tear on her left arm.

What would you do?

Excuses from hospital:

1. We put in a mouth guard - reason for huge lip
2. We don't know what happened - reason for tooth that "fell out"
3. Her blood pressure cuff tubing must have gotten twisted up with her skin when we rolled her over.

She has four of these exact same procedures in the last 30 days with no lip/tooth/arm problems. She is 87 but the skin on her arm is not loose and saggy to get twisted up with the cuff.

I think they almost dropped her or dropped her and got a little too rough with the tube they stuck down her throat during the procedure to remove the stones!

First thing I would do is call Richard Schartz(big time ambulance chaser). Second thing I would do is to move her to a new hospital real fast. and get a new doctor. Third thing I would do is have them rename the hospital after your mom because she's gonna own it.

She's back at the nursing home, they let her go home after all that! :(

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First thing I would do is call Richard Schartz(big time ambulance chaser). Second thing I would do is to move her to a new hospital real fast. and get a new doctor. Third thing I would do is have them rename the hospital after your mom because she's gonna own it.

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Maybe dust off 'Ol Betsy and make sure she's sighted in good...

hate to even hear that, cn, hope she is doing well.

I think they should have to AT LEAST pay for the dental bill to implant a tooth to replace the one that mysteriously fell out.

CN I'd probly have been in jail for murder after seeing that... I hope all goes better and whoever did your mother like that gets what they deserve... I swear nobody gives a flip about anything anymore, including someone else's well-being...

I am sorry to hear of this CN. I do hope that your Mom does well and she is in my prayers.

Thanks for all the well wishes. She looks like she's been in a car accident! :(

That sucks CN!!!! I would definitely raise some he77 with someone! If the hospital wont give you answers then get an attorney.

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That sucks CN!!!! I would definitely raise some he77 with someone! If the hospital wont give you answers then get an attorney.

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exactly right

That place would be named after me when i got thru with em. Tear em a new one.

CN, I worked elderly abuse at one point in my law enforcement career and something ain't right here I'm telling you.

I'm waiting till lunch hour is over and making a call to the hospital. I just had to calm down a bit first before I said something stupid. :(

Good move... It would make ya feel better to tell em what ya think but it rarely gets results when you're still angry... Best of luck and let us know how it goes

You've already asked your questions and got their lame rationale. I'd let a lawyer ask them this time. Sounds like they dropped her

Sorry to hear this. Be sure to take some pictures.

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You've already asked your questions and got their lame rationale. I'd let a lawyer ask them this time. Sounds like they dropped her

Sorry to hear this. Be sure to take some pictures.

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This is probably the best route....... kind of a combo of all the other advice. Thanks ES and thanks to the rest of the gang for your ideas! I'll keep you posted.

I think I'd find out which beaurocrat is in charge of patient care at the hospital, call or go see them and explain that they have 48 hours to investigate the incident and what exactly caused her abnormal injuries and to present those findings to you in person at which point you will make a determination as to their plausibility and decide whether legal action is necessary.

There may in fact be a reasonable explanation but the doc/nurse fumbled over the real answer for fear of a suit. Once you get the truth and the whole truth, you may be not happy, but "ok" with it. If they don't come accross with a satisfactory answer, you can always then proceed with the lawyers, but by giving them the opportunity to fully disclose what happened, you have the chance to get the answer now, as opposed to sicking the lawyer on them and having to wait a long, long time to find out what really happened in the course of depositions....but we're talking years if you ever really do get an answer.

Wannabe...

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I think I'd find out which beaurocrat is in charge of patient care at the hospital, call or go see them and explain that they have 48 hours to investigate the incident and what exactly caused her abnormal injuries and to present those findings to you in person at which point you will make a determination as to their plausibility and decide whether legal action is necessary.

There may in fact be a reasonable explanation but the doc/nurse fumbled over the real answer for fear of a suit. Once you get the truth and the whole truth, you may be not happy, but "ok" with it. If they don't come accross with a satisfactory answer, you can always then proceed with the lawyers, but by giving them the opportunity to fully disclose what happened, you have the chance to get the answer now, as opposed to sicking the lawyer on them and having to wait a long, long time to find out what really happened in the course of depositions....but we're talking years if you ever really do get an answer.

Wannabe...

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Well thank you very much, Perry Mason!!!! Impressive!!!! :)

A short update. Spoke with the chick in charge and gave her the $$$ I'd come up with so far to handle the damage to the mouth and the work it's going to take to fix it. She advised me to get the rest of the estimate and they will "HELP OUT". This was before she's spoken with anyone at the hospital. So, to me, she's committed. I don't expect to "MAKE money" off the deal, but I don't expect to have to pay out of pocket either!!!

Good advice WB

Hate to hear that about you mom, Kitten. I tell everybody that will listed that hospitals are very dangerous places to be. The day after my prostrate surgery an orderly dropped me then fell on top of me. Make sure you get any statements or "offers" in writing.

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Hate to hear that about you mom, Kitten. I tell everybody that will listed that hospitals are very dangerous places to be. The day after my prostrate surgery an orderly dropped me then fell on top of me. Make sure you get any statements or "offers" in writing.

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I just got the second "estimate" for my Mom and after some deep sighs she said she'd cover the entire thing. Said she wasn't going anywhere, I could just pay for it and she'd pay me. I said no way!!!! NUH HUH! Ain't happenin'. I told her I want a letter in writing to give to the dentist and oral surgeon that THEY are paying for it. I am not paying for ANYTHING!!! You know what she told me? She says....... "don't worry, I DO THIS ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!" :( I said, I want the letter as I do not feel that I should have to pay out of pocket for this incident! She agreed to send the letter. :) :) :) :) Now if I get the letter, all is well!

And I was so nicey nice that ya'll would have gotten a little ill. ;)

You pushover. I'd at least have held out for a free boofay. :)

Wannabe...

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You pushover. I'd at least have held out for a free boofay. :)

Wannabe...

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Well where were you when I needed you? hmmmm? :(

Hope all is Ok CN prayers are going out for you and mom. God Bless

Prayers for your Mom

Still lifting prayers for mom CN.

Thanks all. She says her chest and left shoulder hurt really bad....... which reinforces my theory that she may have "slipped" off the table or have been dropped during a transfer. THe main thing is she's ok now and have the first dental appt. tomorrow. :)

Wouldn't be a bad idea to get some pictures of the damages in case they change their mind or you need to show somebody later

Need to have that checked out as there maybe fractures,,, hope she is getting along ok today/

I'm going back to see her tomorrow. Was headed there early this a.m. but she asked me not to come till tomorrow. Thanks for the ideas and well wishes/prayers, guys/gals! :) I do appreciate all the help I can get!

I am in receipt of THE letter stating that they will cover all related expenses! :) Yahoo!

Thats good news... Hope everything goes well and for a speedy recovery...

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Thats good news... Hope everything goes well and for a speedy recovery...

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She's recovered almost entirely other than the missing tooth. LOL

Good news Kitten.

Good news for sure

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Good news for sure

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Yep! Now just have to put her through it all. It'll all be good when it's finally done!

Thanks all!

I tell you some people have no respect for the elderly. Somewere in the past the world has changed and it looks like its getting worse everyday. Hopefully you can do somthing with all this nonsense. I see it all the time, of people not getting the treatment they need. Hope she recovers fine with no problems. Your family is in our prayers....

Man...aint nothing makes me madder than stuff like this! I'm so glad it all worked out for her CN. I doubt I coulda handled it with the grace you did. They are very ruff with patients who are under anesthesia! They liked to have killed me one time about 5 years ago. They didnt have the suction machine near and ready when they put me under for a esophagal scope. I immediately inhaled my own vomit and filled both lungs! My aunt who is a Rn on that floor heard what was going on and came running in just as they were severely beating me trying to empty my lungs. She never would tell me all the details. I reckon they had to shock me cause I aint ever felt as sore as I did when i came to hours later...couldnt breathe...had to take breathing treatments for while and finally recovered. But, the Anesthesiologist came in my room 3 different times checking on me and apologizing for what happened. I shoulda sued them!!