In the book "Fishing With Live Bait" on page 138 it says that one southern university tried several natural baits and found out the shrimp out fish every bait by a 2 to 1 margin using shrimp for bluegill. Interesting
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In the book "Fishing With Live Bait" on page 138 it says that one southern university tried several natural baits and found out the shrimp out fish every bait by a 2 to 1 margin using shrimp for bluegill. Interesting
It's a great bait for lots of stuff, as long as you either cure it with salt or keep it on ice...if you wouldn't eat it, don't fish with it.
I don't doubt shrimp is a good bait, but I'd put live maggots up against it any day of the week.
I was waiting for you to respond. My best friend here is a world champion match fisherman. He is well known in the EU for his fishing skills and 99% of the bait used is maggots. He is banned here from all trout fishing tournaments here. When they first started only 1 or 2 people would catch their limit in a day. He had his limit in 5 minutes, yep, maggots. He was winning all of them and the committee got fed up.
Is your friend Randall Akin? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jigtosser
I knew it, I knew it. You do know who he is. We have been good friends for 40 years.
RA was the first guy I heard of who was using maggots and the English/European floats. He had several nice write-ups in the old Southern Outdoors mag back in the early to mid-1990's. I read those articles and never looked back -- been slaying gills with maggots ever since. I have not used them as much for trout, but they worked great when I did.
They must be talking about grass shrimp. When I lived in Louisiana I would catch grass shrimp easily using a long handle fine mesh net and scooping up under grass along a shore line. Where I fish most of the time now there is no grass along the shore, but now that you have mentioned it I will be a little observant for such.
I read about shrimp being the best bait many, many years ago in an old Outdoor Life magazine.
The test was with grass shrimp but they found out that regular shrimp worked as well and sometimes better.
I use shrimp for catfish in the summer, but I would doubt that it would outfish a maggot, wax worm, etc. for bluegill.
I cant see it outfishing wax worms for me,,becouse I cant bring myself to use it,,,shrimp is for eating not fishing...:cool:
PJ
Some guys use shrimp(salt water shrimp) for Bullheads up here in freshwater and do pretty good with them.
I like shrimp for channel cats.
As far as the maggots go, I read an article about a English guy named Mick Thill who uses them on a #16 hook and super ultra-light tackle. It said he absolutely slays the panfish when no one else is catching anything.
So your saying you eat minnows and crappie nibbles not to mention worms and crickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothlures
... taught me everything I know. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by garrick
And he's not English. He's American (born in Chicago). He just grew up in England.
I Know this my be a crazy question, but what is Maggots? It sounds like fish is being caught and I would really like to know""
Maggots are fly larva. The maggots sold in the US are blue bottle fly larva. Both Grubco and Vados Bait sell them. They're also called spikes.
Thanks deathb4disco, I had no idea, but I will be ordering some, if it caught panfish I got to have some in my bag.:)
The match fishing record, was set using spikes (maggots), the record is 451 bluegills is 4hrs. Area was chummed.
This winter we have been using shrimp for catfish bait here in North Louisiana. It has worked rather well om noodles. This spring I plan on trying it with bluegills just for the fun of it. I usually use red wigglers but am interested now in seeing what shrimp will do. In fact I want to try several things for bait this spring. I have an uncle that uses whole kernal canned corn for bluegills. He swears by that.
I know in south La. grass shrimp are top drawer for bream. Maybe just tiny piece of big shrimp on a hook would work. Worth a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charliee
Charliee thanks for telling about the corn. I was getting ready to post the question about using corn for gill bait. I know that in Wyoming it is illegal to use use corn. For some reason trout cannot resist it. Lets face it canned corn is about as cheap a bait as you can get and you can buy it in the gallon can and chum for a long time.
Wax worms are awful hard to beat
john b.
grass shrimp, in my area, are the most deadly thing to tip anything with as far as outfishing anything without it..l.as far as sacalait are concerned.
I think it's relative to where you are.
db4d, think they'd do better here than grass shrimp?
Adam
You mean maggots? I have supreme confidence in them. If you chum with them (like I do), they're very tough to beat. You can just get the fish into a feeding frenzy, and catch one right after the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micropterus salmoides
Even without chumming, they'd still work very well. Their action in the water is irresistible to the fish. The advantage you'd have with grass shrimp is that their a natural bait that the fish are used to feeding on.
Corn is what I use for carp. When I'm fishing, I will often toss a grain of corn into the water just in front of me. Like clockwork, a small bluegill will dart out and grab it. If I keep it up, more little gills will join him. I've literally had schools of 50-60 small gills in front of me for hours, just waiting for me to toss in a kernel of corn. I've never tried it for the bigger gills, but maybe I should. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jigtosser
Hey, jigtosser, I wonder if your can refer me to the university study that found shrimp (grass shrimp) to be the best bluegill bait. I think I'd really enjoy reading that study. I have used grass shrimp extensively when I lived in S. Florida; they worked great for bluegills, shellcrackers, and crappies. Let me know if you are able to locate that study, or even the university. Thanks.
It is in the Hunting and Fishing Library book called Fishing With Live Bait. They did not give the name but you can contact them and see if they can come up with it. That is the reason I did not give the name, I did not have it.
OK, thanks, jigtosser. I found it.
wow, that is sort of funny, that was a daily thing when I was a kid in one area I fished. 400 every trip in a few hours was a piece of cake. Now the grass has took over that area and I do good to catch 10 fish from there anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaynesworld
I use corn for trout in Arkansas. I'm guessing that trout like corn because it looks like various fish eggs.
Down here in Fla-La-Land grass shrimp are a main source of food and plentiful so we have no need to buy corn, no matter how cheap. :)
Fishing for a fish that cost $2.99 a pound with a fish that cost $9.99 a pound ? Veerry interesting!! Actually, I have used shrimp that got freezer burnt for catfish bait and TORE THEM UP !! Doesn't take much, a little piece on a small treble hook.
Used to fish for catfish with shrimp when I was a boy. At times it was a great bait.;):)
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Originally Posted by 12Packaday
Grass shrimp are free at Lake Okeechobee and other Central Florida lakes. In ten minutes you can have enough for all day. :)
just my luck, im allergic to shrimp, so if i get any on my skin, im my fishing trip is done for. id rather be coming back home with a stringer full of fish than all swelled up and pale.
Man, scoop me up a couple gallon jugs worth, freeze 'em and FedEx 'em to me! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bpatch