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I'm torn between the two fishfinders. Humminbird 570DI or Lowrance Mark 5x DSI. There both about the same price. If any of yall have either one I like to hear what ya think of it. There a bit out of my price range but figured might be able to save up by the Spring. Yall take care.
Humminbird includes Switchfire 2D sonar and Down Imaging so you get both in the same package. Other is DI only.
I am clueless about hi-tech electronics. Why would a person need
2D sonar if they had down imaging?
Good point Doug. If I ever get a hold of one I'll let CDC know how they work.
Units with down imaging say only get good clear picts up to 8-10mph unless something changed on 2011 models..............Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Assassin
I don't have to worry too much about that jaxaprat. I only have a 9.9 on my jon boat. It's bout as slow as I'll get out, but it's a crappie catching machine.lol
I'm dealing with the same problem ,leaning toward elite 5 dsi combo just hoping once I go with down scan I don't regret it.
I saved $100 on my Lowrance Elite 5 DSI by looking around the net...The UPS man dropped it off today only took 4 days to get it.I'm happy with that service and price.
2D sonar allows you to watch your bait if you vertical fish because of the larger coverage area - cone shaped coverage versus DI is very narrow front to rear but spreads wider to the sides in a fan shaped coverage area. Also it is a great tool for those use to 2D sonar to transition to high frequency DI sonar. Humminbird has tested DI to 50mph so for most speed will not be an issue if transducer is mounted for on-plane readings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Assassin
I have no problems seeing my jig in DI or SI.
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I just installed a Elite-5 DSI on the bow of my boat and have a X-96 if I feel the need for 2D on the bow. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterjt
hey justinp61 did you mess with the gps or display mode or whatever ya call that. sure would like to know about what maps it has ??? maybe I"ll have one by spring the hds5,or elite5dsi
sorry did"nt mean to get off the thread so I'm going with lowrance over h-bird
I've only had it on in the shop, the maps are very basic. I think this will be a very good unit for the money.
The 2011 500 and 700 series model DI units are a different type of DI Jaxsprat. They use a dedicated element within the transducer to provide the two DI beams (455/800kHz) and so should work up to the same speeds as 2D sonar will work. Actually they are 2D sonar but are very narrow front-to-rear and wide left-to-right where most traditional 2D sonar is circular shaped.
Why 2D sonar if you have DI sonar? Because of the shape of the sonar beam as stated above. Although the DI sonar can give a clearer view of what the boat has passed over, it can only do so from a narrow area while the 2D sonar can give readings from a larger area. Plus many are so used to traditional 2D sonar that they may prefer to use it versus DI sonar, especially when jigging as it will be easier to locate your bait in the wider coverage area of the 2D sonar.
I'm looking at the Lowrance for this reason, HB doesn't offer a trolling motor mounting option. I understand the smaller "picture" frame, but I would much rather have that coming off of the front of the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
Lowrance customer service scares me, but for what I want, that's the only option.
I have 2 HDS5's and an LSS-1 unit. I found out early on that the 2D wasn't needed for me for any reason. Nothing is going to give you a better picture then the DI. I almost wish I hadn't epoxied the 2d ducer in my hull. It's there if I need it.
The Free updates from Lowrance also are great. Enhancements and Tweaks to make the units run better are awesome, and always Free.
Filletfetish,
There is a trolling motor mount option with the new XNT-9-DI-T transducer but it is in the form of our AD-XTM9 Trolling Motor Adapter bracket.
Does that mean it works sitting still ?? Some one said you had to have movement to let the DI workQuote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
I've been completely still and watched fish swimming through. If you're using side scan, then you need to be moving. DI will work just like 2d when sitting still.Quote:
Originally Posted by frank lawhead
I have the trolling motor bracket. Just waiting for the hb 570 di that I ordered from Cabela's the first of the month. They said they would be in on the 18 and then again on the 24. I guess I will get one of these days.
I got my Elite 5 DSI yesterday and hope to get it on the boat Tuesday as the trolling motor mount won't be here til then. Many told me that the GPS portion was important to have up front so that's why I went with this model as opposed to the Mark 5x DSI. I think you can buy an upgraded map chip if you want. It has a memory chip slot.
Side Imaging will work the same way as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
In a perfect environment this is true. It will depend on wind and current. The SI and DI beams are very small and your jig has to stay in the beam.
Real world scenario....I spider rig...ALOT...so my baits are actually 8 ft in front of the Xducer....Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
A brush pile that I'm "sneaking" up on shows up on the 2d at the same time that my baits start contacting the brush....
That same brushpile doesn't show up on the DI until my baits have already passed by the brush...
This is because the shape of the cone on the 2d sonar shows an area of the water in front (and to the sides) of the Xducer and not just a slice of the water directly under (and to the sides) of the Xducer...
I have a question about the new down imaging units as well. If you have a wider (left to ride) but narrower (front to back) beam for down imaging and say your in 20 feet of water. If a tree appears on the left side of the beam of the transducer how will that show on the screen. Because it would be useless to see structure but not know which side of the boat it is located on? I am getting ready to order the Hbird down imaging and this is the last piece of information that I am curious about.
I have the exact same question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Assassin
With down imaging, if you see it, it's directly under the transducer, drop your bait down there if you don't believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Assassin
Agreed, SI is much harder to read sitting still, compared to DI though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humminbird_Greg
I've got the Elite 5 DSI but it's been too cold to install it. The only problem I see so far is a sticker on the box that says Made in Mexico.
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Originally Posted by FAADAN
I called myself looking through this thread and I can seem to find the answer to my question. I was wandering if anyone knows if the HB 597ci HD DI will work with the HB interlink ? This might be directed at Doug or Greg
thanks
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Viewing the interlink on hb.com there is no 500 series listed "for use with". If this isn't a typo, then I'd say no.Quote:
Originally Posted by maachuu
Thanks mduncan, appreciate itQuote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
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From what I'm reading here it would seem you need both on the TM when spider-rigging. my ? is will there be any interference between the 2 or is the freqs so different as to not interfere.
I've never experienced interference. They don't have a large cone as with 2d from my understanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveJ
I went to Bass Pro Shop last night with full intentions on buying the mark 5 x dsi (gray scale unit) I asked the salesman if this particular unit would show pvc attractors and he was unsure because it is analog can someone verify this?Will it show pvc attractors or not?
HB SI units use 1 xducer for SI, DI, and 2d...Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveJ
Humminbird has the best customer service by far....
Fish Assassin,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Assassin
If a tree was on the left side of the boat and showed in the DI sonar, you would not know whether the tree was directly under the transducer, to the left of the transducer or to the right of the transducer. All you would know is that the tree was within XX number of feet of the transducer based on the width of the sonar beam and the water depth. This is the same with conventional 2D sonar. To know whether the tree was to the right or left of the transducer, you would need a transducer with multiple beams such as the QuadraBeam or better yet: Side Imaging sonar.
going with the 570 DI found it online cheapest so far for $272 .....got to have one!!!