A lot of misinformation is given out online, here's my take on braid vs mono and and a few tips along the way. Let me know what you think. Also curious as to what y'all use, so vote in the poll!
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A lot of misinformation is given out online, here's my take on braid vs mono and and a few tips along the way. Let me know what you think. Also curious as to what y'all use, so vote in the poll!
what is your take? and what is the mis-imformation?
Lol oops, here's the article.
Braid versus Mono - Which is Best? - Charleston Fishing | Examiner.com
Where is the fluorocarbon line listed? Pretty much 100% fluroro here.
where is the poll?
I didn't mention fluorocarbon cause most people use it for leaders. You spool up with it?
Kwerdal the polls shows up for me, at the top of this page.
Use mono mostly for Crappie fishing. ( Wally Marshal - USA ) have tried them all and found it to work best for me. Braid spooled on some of bass reels, love it for certain types of fishing. Did not like it for crappie, found smaller diameters to be not very abrasian restint. Hated the wind knots around tip of rod when jigging. I tie up my own Capps and coleman riggs using florocarbon. Don't know that it makes a difference that's just what i use.
Call me old fashioned. I use mono for everything. Respool every year.
Good info here smooth. I have 14 saltwater rods of various types all have brade. I use power pro and have found the newer line does not bleed like the line they first came out with. I use the green and the yellow the red can leave you with one heck of a mess. Been kicking the idea around about using brade for crappie. I use 4 to 6 lb test trilene xl clear blue florescent it just my preference it doesn't seam to be MAD like all those other lines i have used (numerous ones). What make and test brade do you use? Cant seem to open up your web site.
I use braid in all my rods. It's great on my bass/salt rigs. I use power pro 30#. it's great. I have also used strength superbraid, it worked well for me. I am trying 8lb power pro on my crappie rigs. It is very difficult. Works well with just a jig. When I get a cork setup it takes alot of persistence to keep the wind knots out. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. But I sure like not breaking off and having to retie after every stump or branch.
The only thing I disagree with is when you said this, "For line and leader shy fish, you must remember to use a long, clear monofilament or fluorocarbon leader with braid." I don't believe there is a fish that is shy to line. I've been using braid for crappie for a couple years now and I've never used a leader and never will. I believe that there can be fish that are actively feeding and fish that aren't. Active will bite on the drop or rise. Inactive, you may have to dead stick it, but I don't believe they are looking at the line at all. IMO, a person who goes fishing and blames not catching fish on something like the fish seeing the line is funny. If you are that smart that you know what the fish are thinking, you should never have a problem catching them.
Being successful on the water includes several variables, but being comfortable with what you use, and how you use it is most important. If you believe that fish are looking at your line and not biting because of it, they probably won't bite. You've already put your negative mojo on it. Besides the strength of braid, I enjoy the sensitivity of braid. I used to swear by the wally marshall line, and the first time I tried braid I threw it away. The amount of streth in mono is ridiculous. When the fish aren't really slamming the jigs but more lingering around and just barely tapping it, you're less likely to feel it with mono, you will feel it with braid for sure.
The article was info revisited, most fisherman know the difference. Their are some new braids coming out this year and they are mono/braid hybrids, so we can have the best of both.
I mostly pull cranks, yes, year around, and I use 30# Power Pro yellow on all 8 BnM pro trollers with 20DX Okuma's. Still use mono on a couple poles with corks and single jigs.
I started using Fireline Crystal 6# and love it.
I use braid, mono, and fluoro. On my jig rods I use 10# Fireline w/ 8# fluoro leader. Been using it for over a year now and not likely to change for my applications. The rods that are set-up this way are used to jig brush piles in anywhere from 8'-20' of water which is 75% of my fishing here in TX. The feel this allows cannot be beat and I can feel the lightest takes. It also keeps me from being hung up as much due to the enhanced feel.
My dock shooters are all strung with 6# Mr. Crappie hi-vis. I've tried several other lines but keep coming back to this one for it's combination of visibility, strength, and cost. Alot of dock bites are on the fall and the hi-vis line allows me to see bites that I never feel. Line watching is an acquired habit but it pays off big time when the fish are on the docks. The cost factor is important for me in this application since it seems the best docks are usually the gnarliest underneath and like most crappie fishing if your not hanging up your catching fish.
My spider rig rods are strung with good old, low tech, 10# Stren. Again I've tried several others but this one just plain works.
Another old fashioned and I respool every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanr3
Mono for me as well. Respool once a year as well.
I like to fish the brush in the lakes here in WV. And normally how I do that is with a bobber. Then I cast into the wind and allow the wind to blow the bobber across the top of the brush. So my line can get slack in it. And since I do not like to disturb the drift I just allow the line to drift naturally over the brush. So I prefer the braid. No stretch in braid. So I can set the hook whether I have slack in my line or not. Braid has increased my hook sets exponentially. Then you have the added luxury of not loosing so many jigs if you pour your jigs with light wire hooks. I just keep a pair of pliers handy, and put the bend back in the hook. So I get more time on the water with a better hook set. Pretty simple to me.
Also as far as Flurocarbon leaders go. Well sometimed I use them and sometimes I don't. For me whether I use flurocarbon or not really depends on how heavy the cover is, how deep it is, whether I am hovering just above or slightly into the cover, or deep down into it, and last water clarity. Those factors determine whether I tie on a fluro. leader or not. Tom.
Mono for me. I have used braid for Catfishing, and Saltwater fishing. But I seem to stick with the Mono for most of my fishing.
I respool atleast 3 times a year. Have been times where I respool before each big trip. Depends on how many times a week I go. Respool leaving 1/4 spool of backing. Respool backing, and full spool 1 time a year.
10/2 PowerPro or Sufix Performance Braid will do you well. I'm a Sufix guy myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie 11
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You must not do much trout fishing. Trout are very line shy and require 1-2 lb thin clear/green line. They utilize their eyes well and inspect the bait before dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
Crappie may not be line shy but there are fish that are line shy.
i use both but over the years have switched to mostly braided line. In the spring and fall i use hi visible Fireline 8lb test 3 pound diameter mostly using road runners and fishing fallen timber. You can save 99% of your hang ups by flipping the lure off with the fire line. Most of the guys that fish with me have also switched b/c they get tired of tying on jigs. i also feel the light bites much better and have far fewer bird nests. For docks 6-8lb stren high vis. For long poles i am using both 15 lb power pro and 10lb berkley sensation. The jury is still out.
I use mono too, respool when the line gets rotten :D
I fish for Crappie only. Don't like the taste of Trout. Many years ago, we used to go out and catch trout with Corn and big old gold hooks in Minnesota, They didn't seem to finicky. I'd be willing to bet we could've used yarn for fishing line.Quote:
Originally Posted by kansasmedic
Absolutely. I've seen it time and time again, from largemouth to striper, and especially in saltwater.Quote:
Originally Posted by kansasmedic
Being that this is a crappie forum, I am apparently not thinking about other species, let alone salt water in Missouri. Let me revise my statement. I don't believe that there is a crappie that's line shy. OK. Problem solved. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothlures
Have recently converted my jig poles to 10/4 Hi Vis Fireline, I can just feel the jig so much better with it. Still use mono on the dock shooter though.
Fished two poles side by side. Same depth and same bait. Fluorocarbon on one braid on the other. Caught more crappie on the fluorocarbon than the braid. Why? IMO they see the line.
I only use braid ( Power Pro) on spinning reels. Not bad about curling on rod tip.
I use mostly mono Vicious Hi-Vis ,I do have PowerPro10-2 on my jig pole I like it for that you can feel a lot better
I still only use mono and I don't seem to have problems. :)
Powrpro 10/2 on my jig rods(3 yrs and running on same line). Floro and mono have their uses as well. If you try a good low diameter braid compared to floro/mono when jig fishing you just can't believe the difference in feel that you have. The mushy bites are thunks on braid and barely imperceptable on floro or mono. No one line is perfect for all applications.
Truer words never spoken sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelscraper
I use all three lines, for various tactics.
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Thinking about trying Spiderwire Ultracast 100% fluorocarbon.
if you fish with a float much, reconsider the use of floro, floro sinks, and as such, the line between your rod tip, and your float will "sag" under water, when you go to set the hook, yo hafta drag all that "sunken" line up out of the water.
I prefer the floro for swimming a jig, since the line sinks, it alows for a bit more feel, since you have no bow in your line(kinda the reverse affect from the float situation above). It can be a bit more tricky to work with, i highly advise a line dope tp keep it limber.
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I'm thinking about using it on my jig pole. Waters I fish are very clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hillbilly910
i was wonderin how floro would work on spiderin? Figured since it sinks better it would be a good thing.
I use braid to worm fish for bass...never tried it on specks.
slip float, i do use floro for trolling(spider rig'n), works very well. It also takes the manageablity issues out of floro, since your using such a heavy weight.
I like berkely Vanish for trolling, and berkely Transition for swimming and jigging
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Just bought Fireline Crystal 4 lb. Hope to try it out soon!