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Am going to purchase a new unit this year, Really like the 596 HD DI but only if it has Switch fire and Duel Beams ?????? Saw in the on line catalog that the DI unit has a different transducer XNT -9 - DI -T where the HD unit had the XNT -9 -20 - T Transducer ??? Can someone clear this up ??
The 596c HD DI has Down Imaging but is single beam only (with switchfire) for traditional 2D sonar (200 kHz). The 596c HD lacks Down Imaging but is a dual-beam 2D (with switchfire) unit.
The 597ci units parallel the capabilities of the two 596s but also have internal 50 channel GPS and map chip reading capabilities.
ding dab nab it , you just can't get the best of both in a single unit ! What happens if you put the DI on a Xnt 9 20 T can you use both tranduciers ??? on this unit ???
If you put a 596 HD Di unit on an XNT-9-20-T DualBeam transducer the 200kHz conventional “2D” sonar will work but that is it. The 83kHz 2D sonar will not work in the Di unit as it does not have the circuitry or programming for it.
The same would happen if you put a 596c unit on the XNT-9-Di-T transducer: the 200kHz would work but there would be no Di sonar.
Just went to the Factory Outlet Store .com Humminbird store , list a 596 HD Di with a XNT 9 20 T with Di and duel beam plus is this a missprint or has a change been made ?????
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RiceRocket,
I’m guessing a misprint. Can you give a link to the web page you saw this on?
The “Di” units will ship out with the XNT-9-Di-T DownImaging transducers.
The non-“Di” 596 units (model 596c HD) will ship out with the XNt-9-20-T DualBeam transducer.
Humminbird » Fishfinder :: Depth Finder :: GPS Chartplotters :: Side Imaging Sonar Technology , Go to the 500 series DI units the 596 DI and Ci units list the transducers as XNT 9 20 T ???
Well I'll be , doesn't show up this way , go to the web and type in Humminbird new for 2011 , in the humminbird store it shows both 596 HD Di there ??
I still don't see it Rice Rocket. In fact i cannot find any of the 500 series Di units on the web site. I do know that they are currently working on updating the web site so maybe it was there when you looked but not when i did.
Me thinks you are right Mr Walters .
Mr. walters: Will you be able to put up mutiple screens with the 597ci HD DI Combo? such as crossfire, gps maps, and down image at same time with this unit?
Here is the page I saw on the factory outlet store
Humminbird 597ci HD DI Combo - Down Imaging Combo FishFinder
When will this unit (597ci HD DI Combo) be released for sale?
I found this unit on Amazon for $569.99 see Top Holiday Deals and Valentines Day Sale and Cheap with FREE SHIPPING and Gift Wrap Available - Humminbird 408120-1 Fishfinder 597ci HD DI Combo
Is this the same unit?
What does 455/800 kHz Down-Imaging sonar and 200 kHz down-beam sonar mean?
Sorry for all the questions. I am new to humming bird units.
I (preordered) the unit from Amazon and am trying to find out something about this deptfinder/chart/downfinder.
Will a puck transducer be available for this unit?
Any help or advice or comments about this unit would be appreciated. I plan on using this on the Upper Mississippi River for crappie and walleye.
I found this link about down imaging online.
Humminbird's latest sonar technology for finding fish and structure
several members of crappie.com said this down imaging only seems to work in deep water. The images fromjasonhalenoutdoors seems to refute this. What is your opinion? Thanks again for any help.
Hey, ease off on the “Mr. Walters” there. It’s just “Greg” or “Humminbird Greg”. My son didn’t tell you guys to start calling me “Mr.” did he? He’s always on my ageing back about my ancient (in his words) age! :D
I have not seen one of the new 597ci HD DI Combo units yet nor have I seen the operations manual for one but I suspect that it will allow for several new Views such as the one shown in that advertisement. The 597ci units that we have been producing allow for a 2D sonar – GPS View so I think that the new 597ci HD DI units would have a DI – GPS View as well as a 2D sonar – DI sonar View as well.
Please keep in mind that the FactoryOutletStore.com is an independent retailer and not directly affiliated with Humminbird (Johnson Outdoors, Inc.). They are just another retailer like many others.
I do not know when these units will be released but it should be soon, but I don't know how soon "soon" will be.
The unit shown on Amazom.com looks to be the correct unit as it shows the correct part number (408120-1) for the 597ci HD DI Combo unit.
The 455/800kHz Down Imaging is the frequency that the DI sonar will operate at. It has two selectable frequencies with the 455kHz being the wider (86 degrees) and the 800kHz being the narrower (55 degrees). The higher the frequency the more detailed the image it shows will be.
The 200kHz down-beam sonar means that it will only have the 200kHz 20 degree conventional (2D) sonar (it will not have the additional 83kHz 60 degree 2D sonar that our DualBeam units have).
The XIH-9-DI-T transducer will be available for inside-the-hull mounting. This is possible versus the Si units/transducers since the DI sonar radiates out of the bottom of the transducer housing and not out of the sides like the Si transducers do.
Unless they were given a sneak peak: none of the members of this web site, including Dr. Jason Halfen, has seen the new DI sonar that will be in the 597ci HD DI units. Dr. Jason’s comments were about the Si version of the DI sonar as it was based on the DI sonar from our Si units. These units use the Si sonar which has two elements in the transducer which cover a much wider area of the water column than the DI sonar in the 597ci HD DI unit will. The area covered by the DI sonar in the Si units (depending on menu settings) could be as wide as 180 degrees which covers the entire water column. If I did my math correctly (and remember I am getting older by-the-day...:eek: ) the DI sonar in the 597ci HD DI unit covers:
800kHz 55 degrees = 0.96 x water depth
455kHz 86 degrees = 1.50 x water depth
So depending on how you use the DI sonar on what setting and in what depth of water will all determine if works for you in shallow water or not. I would think that with an area of coverage of 1.5 times the water depth that it would be quite useful.
Good stuff! Thanks Greg...
LOL ,Good Info , I just ordered the 798 HD SI I wanted it all Side , Down and Switch Fire .
thanks for all the info Greg. I have used lowerance for years but after hearing and reading about the poor customer service for lowerance and the opposite (Good customer service) for hummingbird I have decided to leave the dark side and come over to the light ,HA Ha. Seriously my buisness partner bought a hummingbird unit and loves his. He had transducer problems and they were taken care of in 24 hours. I am looking forward to using the di model not only on the big river but at @ lake truman @ crappie camp this spring with all the great Mo boys. Thanks again!
well I'll be, never had a problem with LOWRANCE, but I did with humminbird. sure is funny what we hear. and funnier what the truth is.Quote:
Originally Posted by badaxed
My neighbor had a problem with his lowerence and it took two days of calling to even get someone to respond. He was not a happy camper. I know a prossional walleye angler who loves his bird.
I'd say the complaints about Lowrance customer service have dropped to almost none. On the sites I frequent, I'd say they are running neck and neck and in some cases Lowrance has done better then HB to take care of the customers. There's always going to be complaints for both, and people who blame the companies for everything that happens. Letting what you hear, decide your buying decision is kind of a scary proposition. You don't have enough information to know if the person making the comment is credible, or what he may have done to the unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by badaxed
You own a lowrance unit now, is it under warranty? Call in to CS and see what happens. I'd be interested to hear the results.
My neighbor had the same thing with HB. They gave him the run around for 2 weeks. He was very mad. He's a pro also.Quote:
Originally Posted by badaxed
Well I guess its a quandry! Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. ford or chevy, mercury or johnson, Lowerance or humminbird. Just like pickin a dog, Close your eyes and pick and hope you get a good un!