Hog Nose crappie, Black nose crappie

Hey how many of these crappie you guys catch? I see them on occasion but I enjoy catching them as I remember catching them as a kid fishing with my dad on Sardis and Grenada.

That is supposedly a half white, half black crappie with the mother being a white crappie. That is what I was told.

Yeah... Suppose to be a mix like crappiholic said. They also can't reproduce.

I caught one Sunday bout 10 inches long. Wierd though, it only had a black lip, not all the way down it's back like they normally do. They're called Triploid and like Crappieholic said, Half white and half Black

Well that is it. I usually throw them back but those days are over..

Not a hybird just a black crappie.


"The Arkansas Black Nosed Crappie is a strain of black crappie first described in the white river basin of Arkansas. The black nosed crappie have a black stripe running from the top of their dorsal fin, down their nose and over their bottom lip. Some believe the black nosed crappie reproduces less or is sterile, grows faster and fights harder than regular black crappie. So far no conclusive evidence has proven any of these theories. The most likely explanation for this black stripe is that it acts like the black paint football players wear under their eyes helping them to see better in certain habitats. The black stripe is the result of a recessive gene like the albino channel catfish. Black nosed black crappie readily breed with regular black crappie and are a fun addition to crappie ponds.
Recently hybrid crappie, triploid (sterile) hybrid crappie and triploid (sterile) black crappie have been developed for pond stocking. Although not widely distributed both triploid hybrid crappie and triploid black crappie may be well suited to small ponds because of there inability to reproduce. Hybrid crappie, although not sterile and will spawn, have shown improved growth rates and larger maximum sizes is some studies. Only time will tell as these new crappie are raised and marketed in future years whether or not they will perform well in small ponds."

Interesting.

Very interesting. So now I am back to releasing them as them seem pretty rare in comparison.

I always thought they were triploids. I'm not buying the "they grow bigger and fight harder" bit though. Don't think I've caught one that is a keeper and can't remember one over 10", but usually see a handful every year on Grenada.

Wannabe...

The triplod is a hybrid. They were first produced by TSUN. They were first released in a state lake near Cleveland and got fished out in a hurry since they don't reproduce. Didn't they release some in Sardis or Grenada?

Here is how the Magnolia is produced.

"Making Magnolia crappie
The Magnolia crappie is a cross between a male blackstripe crappie and a female white crappie. The blackstripe crappie is a color variant of the black crappie that occurs naturally in low numbers in some Mississippi impoundments. The blackstripe crappie — also called a blacknose crappie — is recognized by a narrow, dark stripe from the dorsal fin forward down the top of the head and continues on the underside of the head to the back of the mouth.
The hybrid offspring of the male blackstripe crappie and the female white crappie retains the black stripe. Using the blackstripe crappie as the male parent instead of a normally colored black crappie allows hybrids produced in the hatchery to be easily recognized.
But hybrid crappie can reproduce, so hybrids don’t accomplish the goal of controlled reproduction needed to effectively manage crappie in small impoundments. But the hatchery scientists have one more trick — they make the crappies triploid.
Crappie, as most fish, have two sets of chromosomes. This is the diploid condition, and diploid fish reproduce normally. Triploid crappie have three sets of chromosomes. Cellular processes necessary to produce viable eggs and sperm break down when there are three sets of chromosomes. It is the triploid condition that prevents the triploid hybrid crappie from producing offspring. The fish produce eggs and sperm and mate, but the fertilized eggs do not develop.
The triploid offspring are produced by stripping eggs from normal female white crappie and fertilizing them with sperm stripped from normal male blackstripe crappie. At exactly five minutes after fertilization, the eggs are put into a pressure chamber and exposed to 8,000 psi of pressure for two minutes. This interrupts the normal cellular processes, and results in the egg retaining an extra set of chromosomes. The fertilized egg, and the offspring that develops from it, have three sets of chromosomes, and cannot produce offspring.
Crappie reproduction is controlled only if all the stocked fish are triploid. Unfortunately, the procedure is not yet fool-proof. The percentage of offspring that are triploid has ranged from 60 percent to 100 percent, so work remains to further refine the process. Fish can be tested to see if they are triploid by taking a tiny blood sample from each fish. The process does not injure the fish, but is very labor intensive and limits the number of fish that can be stocked.
As the hatchery staff continues to refine their procedures, Magnolia crappie are being produced and will be stocked into some state fishing lakes. The MDWFP hatchery does not provide fish for private stocking.
Hard work and progressive thinking will produce great crappie fishing without creating populations of overabundant and small crappie of little interest to anglers."

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