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These jigs are tyed with all glow materials. Jigs on the left are tyed with glow in the dark wig hair. Action is not good (probably better for larger jigs) and the wigs are real expensive. Tail material, for the jigs on the right, is multi strands of glow thread.
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Led have always enjoyed the glow jig pictures. When I did Walleye fishing Glow jigs worked well in the fall on moonless nights. I know that Skip and several others have spent time and effort on developing there type of glow jigs. Hats off to all who have and share that information and pictures. That being said I have a question??? When do you use them and how effective are they over no glow jigs. I have some glow plastics and Glow crappie nibbles. They seem to work no better or worse that the non glow products. Would someone please enlighten ( pun not intended ) as to when to use them most effectively. Personally I love to see the soft glow come off of them. Now that is really cool looking.
Redman
Redman I have caught more crappie on glow jig during the day than at night. The sun will change them every time you bring them in and once you get past 10' down the light is very low and they will glow well. Mine glow very bright and for long time too.
One day soon I will tell how I do this, but I bet a some will not go there.
This is just holding the jig under my table and taking a picture during the day time. I use a regular hackle tail or marabou.
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Skip
LH - Nice looking jigs! Maybe the wig material would be better suited for the colder months, i like a little less action once the water temps cool down... maybe just me.
Skip - Why so "tight lipped"??? Haha, just kidding with ya. :p
Big difference in the actual color of the glow between the jigs posted here, wonder if that would make any difference as well. Mr. Gill & Mrs. Crappie...... Would you like your radioactive minnows in a shade of blue or green today? :D
skip those are awesome looking.
You can make a fair number of glow color, but only a few are really good and bright too. green is brightest and Blue is Next. Well one Blue is anyway and part of the problem with mine and having more than a couple colors if keeping the stuff from just drying up before you use it. It's kind of a pain and the mix is critical and a few other little thing that make it work well.
It took me a few months of research and experimenting and on the phone talking to Mfg. a lot to get it right. I came up with mine almost 5 years back now, well closer to 4 1/2 years ago.
Ask Ship, he tried his best to figure it out and never did, but I finally made a deal with him that if I told him how he couldn't tell, LOL! Once I did, he freely admitted he would have never figured it out. Too many variables and work to develop it. I just figure if someone wants to learn then they need to get after the digging the info out and think of the materials to do this. Ship worked so hard on it I just figured he deserved knowing. No one else has put in the effort so I don't tell so far.
I am kind of that way about a lot of things, I think everyone should put in some effort before handing them tips and how to do things. If they don't want to work on it then I don't feel they deserve knowing. All it takes is doing the due diligence and trying to find info on their own before it's handed to them on a platter.
Some may say I am being a Pain in the tail, but I just don't believe in handing people things with no work put in by them. Some don't like my approach to things and that is fine with me as it their right, but it's also my right to share with who I want and not share with others.
Skip
Thank you! They glow like crazy and really bright. I don't even turn off the over head light to take these pictures. Just hold them under my table.Quote:
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Skip
Awesome jigs Led! Like the multicolor glow. And those phlats are too cool!
i agree with you skip/ why hand out hard work when someone wont even try alittle.
Haha, no Skip, i am not interested in your secret formula for the Krabby Patty. I just saw your post earlier about how the board was slow and 'tight lipped' and thought it was kinda humorous. I guess when you are in the biz, you got to keep those trade secrets close. :) Think i have given up just about all the little tricks i have learned, but thats just me. BTW - If a guy named Plankton shows up at your door one day, lock that formula away in the vault and kick him out of the Krusty Krab!!!
Sorry... with having 2 young kids at home, i end up watching a little too much Spongebob. :D
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Haha, no Skip, i am not interested in your secret formula for the Krabby Patty. BTW - If a guy named Plankton shows up at your door one day, lock that formula away in the vault and kick him out of the Krusty Krab!!!
I always feel sorry for Plankton.
Excellent life lessons from a terrible kids show.
Adam
we have been using glow jigs for a long time. They work pretty well. Just before it gets too dark to fish and also like skip has said in daylight hours they work especially well if you're fishing deep we prefer not to use color in the pigment it seems to cut the brightness so we use only the aluminous white . The only thing that we do is paint efflorescence eyeball and we prefer to use short hackle on these jigs. Yes similar to firefly.
Well this was not something I learned for anyone else and I even thought about getting a trademark for it. I tell most anything someone wants to learn about tying, but this one is different to me. I still think about trademarking the process. Since you have never seen them of had them in hand you would understand now different they are. Like I said ask Grizz as he had some.Quote:
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Also don't see anything related to the post about tight lipped since that was just about making post, nothing about secrets and how to do anything. Heck show off some jigs someone tied. Get the picture? They are completely separate things and have nothing to do with each other. Maybe you just didn't get it.
Skip
Anyway back to my original post
RM When do you use them and how effective are they over no glow jigs. Night time mostly or in deep water.
AF and RD thnx really appreciate the compliments
The jigs I do are not rocket science or some kind of Voodoo magic. The heads are painted with standard Pro-Tec phosphorus powder paint. Used the fluff and stuff technique on the roundheads and the tube jigs are powder painted with 4 different colors using the brush technique.
The eyes are 3 D 2 mm glow in the dark - special order from ebay. Phosphorus thread (4 colors) and the glow wig were bought of ebay also. The final element is Flashabou glow flash accent I get mine from CAT.
Years back started mixing phosphorus powder with fingernail polish to paint jigs but mostly to do eyes. Something about the powder would suck up all the VOCs out of the FP and dry it up. No big deal - just add acetone or FP remover and mix up what you are going to use. Powder painting is so much easier - application and clean up. You can even take the phosphorus powder paint and add it to FP if you want to paint the jigs.
Haven't messed with Pro-Tec's high visibility glow stuff much. School of thought, out here, is that the subtle glow illicit more strikes than the "brighter shine for ever" colors. Got some 12 hour glow powder but cant see fishing with the same jig for 12 hours.
Does glow in the dark jigs catch more fish? Probably not just another gimmick to play with........
Chenille (got from JJ1) bodies. The Flashabou glow accent is from CAT best stuff out there.
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During the day I think they can be a help and sometimes do better than one not glowing, but as you said just another tool. I know they work day time especially fishing down 10' or more as the light in my lake that deep would probably not be reaching much. I know with mine every time you pull them up the sun will charge the heck out of them.
I am not sure at all, but I believe you probably would have your jigs most visible with UV material and probably farther through the water. Since in Crystal Clear water the last color that can be seen is blue at 40' and UV color or light can go 700' through the water. You can't see it, but the fish can. The only way you can see it's there is under a black light, but Florescent color also glow under a black light.
Take a bass, He can see roughly 15'-17' in stained water and about 5' in muddy water so you can see where they can see so much better than we can it's hard to know more than what you experience when you fish these glow or UV materials.
I am going to try some chenille this next year with UV and I can make my heads UV coated now. So the only part not being UV would be the tail.
If glow is cool and should help especially in stained water, UV has to be awesome, IMHO!
I hope this addresses your question! Can't say I know enough to be definitive about this, but the evidence seems pretty clear to me.
Skip
After doing some reserch into the glow in the dark subject there is one I know I don't want to mess with. It is the strongest and longest lasting of them all but the most deadly. Radium paint !!!! It killed thousands of workers in the clock and watch industry back in the 1920's thur the 1940's. It was used to paint the numbers and hands on clocks and watches to make them illuminus at night. Several of the watch and clock companies had to start there own hospitals to treat these poor souls who didn't have a clue as what was making them sick and killing them. Part of the problem was that they would thin the paint with water and the girls that painted the dials and hands would wet the brushes on there tounges. Aren't we lucky that we have safe products to work with rather than radioactive material that could cause us great harm.
I am excited to use some of the glow jigs if they work as good as all you say they do. A new weapon in my crappie arsonal.
Redman
redman I saw this on mythbusters.Quote:
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Midnight This is historic fact and not myth. There was a documentery film that was made in the 1980's on this. I saw it back around 1990 they interviewed people that had worked in the Westclox clock works. These girls had to work 6 days a week on 10 hour shifts. They would even paint their faces with radium paint and go home to scare their family by looking thur windows into their houses. Nothing to fool with or should I say only a fool would fool with this stuff. Here is a link for you Radium Girls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. And another Martha Irvine, Suffering Endures for 'Radium Girls' who painted watches in the '20s. Scary stuff!!!!!!
Redman
Mine has no such stuff in it, LOL! Don't want to radiate people for sure.
Not to say there are not fumes involved making them though.
Skip
hey redman I didnt mean it was a myth. I saw a show on mythbuster about it. It is 100% true.
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I like the show Mythbusters. Were else can you see stuff get blowen up and get some education at the same time. Think that I kind of highjacked the thread so back with a new question. What would be better a glow in the dark body or a glow in the dark head. I know most of you have both that being said I am thinking maybe like a ultra-head minnow would be the best jig choice for the prefect glow in the dark jig. Would like you opinion as I have a number of mold and just starting out on my journey into the realm of Glow in the dark. I have ball head, ponyhead, and my custom for a lack of a better description modifidetappered ball heads. Or maybe the Question should be does it make any difference what style I use????
Redman
Don't think style head matters at least in my opinion.
As far a Mythbusters I know it come on one of the stations in the 250-300 on Directv, but don't remember which it is. Next time I see it listed I will let you know. I think it is around History channel or close to it. Forgot I have the App on my iPhone and it comes on Discovery Channel.
Skip
I guess the more glow the better. Thats good as I didn't want to buy another jig mold. Now it the fun begin. Wish me luck as I search for the ultimate glow jig!!!!!
Redman
Redman I am going to save you some time and send a couple in a couple weeks. I have to get through what I am on now, but next is a guy that included in his order some Glow Jigs so it's easier to make them all at one time.
The worst part about mine is the cost of materials and then the fact if you not using it a lot the stuff will just thicken until solid if you don't watch it close.
It is the Ultimate Glow Jig and I put a feather tail on, but can put some kind of stiff Glow Flashabou type stuff and it works too, but I just like the feather since I mostly use them day time anyway. However with the tail that glows then the whole ting glows.
Skip
Skip my mind is now in overdrive. How to make a tail feather glow. Got to put some heavy duty thinking in on that. BTW Radiation is out. But who know what mens minds will come up with.
Redman