Fish ID - please help

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10-06-2010, 03:25 PM
keyser_soze

Fish ID - please help

I need help identifying the 3 dark fish. I think that they're Warmouths. They have a body similar, although larger than most bluegill, and a mouth more like a bass than a bluegill.

My grandpa called them Perch. I told them I really wasn't sure what a perch was.

Oh yeah - they were caught on a farm pond in Missouri.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5...ithgrandpa.jpg
10-06-2010, 06:50 PM
PBUG2009

war mouth....some people call them LOG PERCH....For me its awesome big catfish bait.
10-06-2010, 06:57 PM
Pegleg

Yep! Those are Warmouth, nice ones too.
10-07-2010, 06:20 AM
Altamaha Jones

you both are right

Warmouth perch is what I've always heard.
10-07-2010, 06:27 AM
cricket george

Those are green sunfish not warmouth. Green sunfish have large mouths and are found in farm ponds in shallow water. Their bottom fins typically trimmed in white. Some people do call a greenie a warmouth though.
10-07-2010, 06:34 AM
Pegleg

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Originally Posted by cricket george

Those are green sunfish not warmouth. Green sunfish have large mouths and are found in farm ponds in shallow water. Their bottom fins typically trimmed in white. Some people do call a greenie a warmouth though.

Don't know about that george. I don't see any white on em anywere. ID pixs need to be closer with fins raised so we can count rays and spines.
10-07-2010, 07:39 AM
CrappiePappy

I'm with George on this one ....

They don't look like Warmouth .... no "warpaint" stripes on their faces. Plus, the stripes down the side are more indicative of a Green Sunfish, and the dorsal fins run back closer to the tail fins (also more like a Green Sunfish).

Then again, if both species are present in this pond ... they could be Warmouth/Green Sunfish hybrids (which might explain the scarce stripes on the top two). Or, it could be that the pond is normally muddy (or off color), & that's the reason for the dark coloration & missing dark bands down the sides (on the top two).

Whatever they are ... they look like they're fat & healthy. You won't care what specie they are, once you gett'em clean'd & fried :p .... they'll eat good ;)

... cp :cool:
10-07-2010, 08:38 AM
keyser_soze

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Originally Posted by Pegleg

Don't know about that george. I don't see any white on em anywere. ID pixs need to be closer with fins raised so we can count rays and spines.

Sorry. When I took this photo I wasn't planning on submitting these pics for ID
10-07-2010, 09:26 AM
Bombfixer

I know what those fish are. Down here in 'Bama, we call em DINNER ;)
10-07-2010, 03:51 PM
Locator79

Green sunfish
10-07-2010, 06:24 PM
keyser_soze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locator79

Green sunfish

I don't think these fish are deep enough (from dorsal to anal fin) to be a green sunfish.

http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com...1167308946.jpg
10-07-2010, 08:01 PM
NIMROD

Book name ''Green Sunfish'' locally called ''Rice Field Slicks" They make great bait for Flathead Catfish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_sunfish
10-07-2010, 08:15 PM
Tracy Swanson

we call them yellow belly shell crackers hear in south carolina but that may be wrong but i know it a bream
10-07-2010, 09:15 PM
cricket george

Waita minute, if the fish do not have the white outline on their bottom fins then they could be hybrid sunfish. A hybrid sunfish is a cross between a bluegill male and a green sunfish female. This picture does not appear to show a white outline on the bottom fins. So I am going to change my opinion.
10-08-2010, 09:45 AM
keyser_soze

Do hybrid bluegill have larger mouths? These fish definitely had mouths 3-4 times larger than regular bluegill.
10-09-2010, 07:51 PM
T.C.

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i dont know what is is but it definately aint a regular common warmouth. Those fish as too round lookin. warmouth are normally longer and sleeker lookin. here is a pic of a normal warmouth.

Attachment 47304
10-09-2010, 09:22 PM
fishwalton

According to Florida Fish and Wildlife this looks like a green sunfish to me. see: FWC - Nonnative Prohibited - Green sunfish
10-12-2010, 03:38 PM
Pat

I don`t know what they are but they are not warmouth............... I like the above answers."they`ll eat good" and "dinner" :-)
10-12-2010, 03:40 PM
Pat

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Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun

i dont know what is is but it definately aint a regular common warmouth. Those fish as too round lookin. warmouth are normally longer and sleeker lookin. here is a pic of a normal warmouth.

Attachment 47304

Thats a nice fish ! You catch it? biggest warmouth I`ve ever seen !
Pat in NENC
10-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Fishaholic

correct I.D. is hybrid bluegill, they've got 'em in most of the private ponds around here.
10-13-2010, 12:49 PM
T.C.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat

Thats a nice fish ! You catch it? biggest warmouth I`ve ever seen !
Pat in NENC

No i didnt catch it, got it off google. lol. i was just tryin to find a good clear pic of one and if ya cant find it aint on google, you wont find one anywhere.
10-14-2010, 01:13 PM
DonDon

We call 'em Goggleeyes
10-14-2010, 01:34 PM
fishwalton

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Originally Posted by DonDon

We call 'em Goggleeyes

It can get confusing due to local culture using a particular a name. The Florida Fish folks list a local name "goggle eye" under their official name "warmouth" .

See:
FWC - Freshwater Fish Identification Warmouth

There is a considerable difference between Red ear sunfish( locally a shellcracker) and a Warmouth (goggle eye) When I lived in Louisiana we calle dthem goggle eye. Here is my part of Florida it's both warmouth and goggle eye.

Both red ear sunfish and warmouth seem to like worms best. Here it is not unusual to catch a lot of goggle eye when bass fishing with plastic worms. If the worm is very long they have a habit of biting the tail off. They will bite crickets buy my experience is worms is their favorite.
10-14-2010, 03:46 PM
slabsrus

I would have to lean more toward the green sunfish or the hybrid green/warmouth, but hard to say for sure without better pictures.