Anyone remember me posting this jig? I think I did and I know I did on some boards, anyway what is it?
Skip
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Anyone remember me posting this jig? I think I did and I know I did on some boards, anyway what is it?
Skip
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...s/DSC03736.jpg
I think it was tungsten... am I right?
thats what i was going to guess, i have been doing some research and the most common substitute looks like bismuth which is still expensive, so i can only imagine how much tungston would cost you per jig skip
the head looks pretty cool though
Yes you are and this one I think is close to 1/16. I know you have been around here long enough to remember that, but I bet there is a good many that have not see it.
Only problem is cost. Can't get these for any thing close to $10 a hundred, LOL!
You know I have still not fished with one yet.
Skip
I'm curious,what is the price for 100? Would 1/32 cost less because less material is used?
I remember when you posted that but also remember you said they weren't cheap
Fatman
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Originally Posted by JUNGLEJIMJIGS
Ok let me say this. I know most would be buying retail and it looks like there are a couple different ones. The one in the picture here is a Slotted Head and they sell for $8.95 for 20 on the larger size like in this picture. This is the largest I have found. Then smaller ones like this sell for $6.25 for 20.
Then there is something called a Cyclops Beads that are some less, but still less colors at something like $2.25 per 24 count. I did see some of these at $7.95 for 100, but these I believe weigh less.
The slotted beads will fit on sickle hooks, but not as well we some other jig hooks. The Cyclops fit cost better, but not as heavy I think and not as good. Will they work? Sure, but the heaviest I have found is 1/40 Oz. so anyone that likes even 1/16 can't get there.
I have a place I can get larger numbers, but don't remember the cost for the heavier heads/beads. So for a reasonable size that is more than 1/32 or close to 1/16 is almost $0.40 each retail. Even wholesale they are like 0.25 each.
So buying them by the 100 or stocking a bunch of these is going to be expensive and lets just compare a 1/16 Oz. jig to a Jig made with one of these. Your starting off with a jig head with hook that cost a couple times what it was before and you have to buy the color you want if they have it???? You have about 8 or 9 colors to choose from including silver, gold, black and a few other colors. I have some of each color I think.
As far as 1/32 costing less or not; The one here is 7/32" and is close to 1/16 Oz. and if you drop to 5/32" it's weight is already dropped to about 1/64 Oz. I have not weighed the 3/16" so am guessing some when I say I think they are going to be close to 1/32 Oz. the price drops on each of these 3 and all the smaller ones are the same price. Each of these biggest 3 sizes are not much difference in price and only drop maybe 0.50 per pack.
Oh and I have also looked at using a cone head on a fly hook and they are even higher cost.
Skip
I would just use my soldered jigs. By the way that is a good looking jig Skip.
Solder has lead in it Ship.........what if you get caught? What kind of magazines do we need to send you in jail? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shipahoy41
What kind of metal bead is on the head skip or is that something unusual. I know it's not lead in I have not seen that one yet. Until now
Has anyone tried Bismuth?
My lead will stay with me...... Pry it from my cold, dead hands. Too old to change now.
Bob that is Tungsten.
Skip
I'd probably buy some if lead was banned. Probably use tin with a lot of jigs. I feel the same as hunter7711,but would have to see how high the fines would be and/or possible jail time. We could dispose of all our lead by selling and sending it to China. They aren't going to stop making jigs with lead just because we do. I can see it now,me sitting in jail sitting with murderes and rapists everywhere and someone asked me what I did to end up in here. I went fishing and used leadhead jigs !!! Figure I'd be safe because I must be crazy.
No more solder.Ship,you had better get looking for solder replacements,Ha.
You know guys this is not about just banning lead, it's about tree huggers and wackos that want us to stop fishing and hunting. They don't want us using feathers from birds that were killed it's about our personal freedoms. It's about the liberal agenda that wants to control us from every angle and wants us to make the money and give it to people that don't work or maybe any.
From another guy...These folks(PETA) don't care one iota about lead. Their whole agenda is to eliminate sport hunting and fishing. This is just one of their' backdoor' tactics to that end, and I'm not just going to willynilly aid and abet these people.
This is just the start and think of it like a wedge, once you get that edge in and hammer the heck out of the big end pretty soon the wedge makes it's way all the way in????
That is more what this is about! All of their info is based on just junk science.
Skip
Not all solder has lead in it, I have lead free solder I use for tying in my tying gear and I love it. I can tie under anything without coating it and it makes a bigger jig really heavy if I want it to be.
The day they ban hunting and fishing I will organize an open season on Tree huggers, I wonder what they taste like, most likely not chicken! LMAO. Protecting the envirnoment is fine with me when done on fact and real research; but using fear to get an agenda passed will always put a crick in my line.
One good thing though is it looks like the Republicans will be in control in 4 months so any ban will have to wait til they lose power again.
Crappie fishing. I guess I did not know that David. Time to experiment with other items however I do like my soldered jigheads and lures. I just checked and yes there is lead free solder. I am getting some tomorrow. Personally I believe PETA and in many cases ACLU are way out in left field with their philosophies. I will vote anyone out of office who impedes my right to the persuit of happiness.....I.e. Fishing!Quote:
Originally Posted by G3 Fisherman
I am Iron Man!
Bismuth by it self will be to brittle and easily broken.I know some are saying pure tin.Ive talked with some metal guys and Im being told the closest to our lead will be a 40/10/50 40 tin,10 zinc,50 bismuth.The best price Ive found so far is 13.00/per lb if you buy 250 lbs less than 250 and it is 15.00/pound.Even with this rate mixture Im told it will be around a 20 to 21 percent lighter than lead.I could live with that myself but dang that is ruff on the pocket to fill the ole pots.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddieb
I know this, I will be making some really good friends out of local machinists and CNC operators just in case.
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Originally Posted by fish_4_all
Guys- EPA cannot be controlled by Congress directly. The agency reports up a line that leads to the Oval Office and the earliest we can vote for a change in that office is 2 years from now. EPA can do A LOT between now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by shipahoy41
We have to look a little further then tomorrow here.