looks like its down to a 115hp yamaha 4s, merc4s, optimax, or etech. your imput would be appreciated.
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looks like its down to a 115hp yamaha 4s, merc4s, optimax, or etech. your imput would be appreciated.
Up until this year I have never owned a four stroke. My wife and I bought us a new pontoon with a 115 yamaha four stroke. Smooth, quiet, and easy on gas. I am currently in the market to repower my WarEagle with either a Honda, Merc or Yamaha 4 stroke. You can't go wrong with either a Merc. or a Yamaha. They are both great. I would go with the best price. Just my 2 cents worth!
Yamaha hands down.
god to hear you like both slimey. why do you say the yamaha pig?
Yamaha,my brother in law gave me a 9.9 that sat in storage for12 years. Put fresh gas in it and pulled the starter three times and it fired up.
I would personaly choose optimax, but either will be fine
I really like my Honda...quiet...fuel efficient...little or no maintenance. My choice came down to the quality of the dealership and what they were selling/recommending.
Go with the best price and a good DEALER all are good motors. The people that tell you which one to buy is the one that they have. It's like which truck is best Ford or Chevy.
I have had a four stroke Yamaha115 for 5 years now and love it.
thanks for the good advice. does anyone doubt that a 115hp 4 stroke will provide sufficient hole shot for a war eagle 2170.
Yes, way too much boat for that motor. The 4-strokes suffer at the hole shot, but once...if they make it over the hump they are usually ok. You'd be much better off with an Optimax or Etec or going to a 150hp 4-stroke. There would have to be a very steep discount to justify the 4-stroke.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaw
4-strokes were all the rage because of the strict EPA rules. Now Optimax and Etec have surpassed the 4-strokes making the current 4-strokes look like the dinosaur outboards they are.
I have a friend that has a 20' lund with a 150 honda. Boat runs good, quiet, efficient. Down side is that dude is heavy with a capital H. I would look at an Optimax if it were me. They're one of the most common, among other things, and the dealers will have more knowledge than of some of the others. I have a 17' 8" bass boat and would put a 150 opti on it to replace the '88 mariner if it had any problems. Just my 2 cents.
Just curious, why no get a 150...that its rated for?
I have a Yamaha F115 on my boat. Good engine. Suzuki also makes a good four stroke.
4ever, all said and done, i may end up with something bigger than a 115hp. but i don't care too much about top speed, but i do want to be able to get out of the hole decently. i sent an email to war eagle about this. we'll see what they say. but i am interested in what y'all have to say.
I hear ya on the top speed. My boat with a 150 will run upper 50's, low 60's if I push it. Although I rarely go over 35-40. Everything I have ever heard, seen, or done really leans towards putting the max (recomended) hp for the boat. Alot of performance, both holeshot and top end, is controlled by the prop pitch. Lower # pitch is holeshot, higher is top speed. I guess its better to have more HP and not use it, than need it and not have it.
I've often wondered how 2 identical boats with say the 115 on one, and the 150 on the other would be for fuel useage...in say 1/2 throttle, 40 mph or so driving conditions?
just heard back from war eagle. they said the 2170 was tested with 115 etec and performance was great in every regard. 2 dealers are touting their etecs on the 2170. the etec will save me money too.
I run a 115 h.p. Rude 2 stroke currently on my WarEagle 2060 c.c.. . I love it but it just don't like slow trolling speeds. WOT I get about 40 mph and the hole shot is great.
115 will do great on that boat. But check on the price of plugs on the E-Tec. The 3 plugs for the 90 E-Tec I have are around $50 and they have to fit in the head in a small window as in the plug gap has to be within 45 degrees of where they say or they will not last long at all.They had to put a deflector plate in the heads to keep the fuel spray off them as if not the plugs burn up fast.. I like the e-tec other then that issue. Starts first time every time. No break-in get your boat and open it wide open the first 5 minutes and never have to take those 20 hour walks to break it in.
But just be warned about the plug issues and I have worked on outboard motors for years. And it took me 1.5 hours to change 3 plugs on mine. And if you need to replace them while on the water its not going to happen.
Also what does that hull weight in at? I know my 2072 LDSV showed 950+ and it was more like 1160 lbs Because I weighted in on the way home boat and trailer then unloaded the boat and weighed the trailer thats the weight will full floor and sides on it along with 18 gallons of gas and no motor or batters or Trolling motor.
Pete
ya see that's my dilemma!!! slimey, the dealer tells me the etec can be set to troll down like a 4 stroke and yet have great hole shot. and shiloh warns me about changin' plugs and how temperamental they are and i really appreciate the warnings. but if i want to have to fight those kinds of issues i might as well put an o/b bracket on my old 20' deep vee and spend 1/2 the money and know i've got a project, not buy new and still have problems. i realize that a guys always gotta "learn his equipment", but i want as trouble free and idiot proof as i can get.
The 4-strokes don't have near the whole shot the two-strokes do. If you go with a 4-stroke definately get the max horsepower.
Got a 2006 merc. 40 4-stroke on a 170 TX Bass tracker, that i bought used. The boat is rated for a 50 hp, when i first got the boat it wouldn't come out the water with the 21-gallon livewell full and a full tank of gas with two people in it. Thought we might have to get a 50 or 60 hp motor, but my mechanic suggested a new prop., had to go down two sizes and get a stainless still prop. It is still not great but it will work okay now. just my input on 4-strokes.
Stupid question: Why is the "hole shot" so important to you?
good hole shot gets you up on plane quicker; instead of just pushing water longer.
Holeshot means everything if you are boating in any water that isn't completely sheltered. If you can't get on top of the water quickly if storm/heavy winds come up, you are at risk of taking on alot of water or worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redy2Fish
Just returned from a vacation to Alaska and fished with a long time guide on the world famous Kenai river. He was running a 50 hp 4 stroke Yamaha and also runs a small hp 4 stroke Yamaha (for trolling) on the same boat. I ask him what do most of the 400 + registered guides on the Kenai run on their boats. He said 90% of them run Yamahas. I asked him why??? He said because they were the most reliable. The 2nd most used outboard was a Honda. Hope this helps.
Because my Yamaha 4 stroke is approaching 10 years old. Not one single issue with it. Not one. It gets used twice a week 7 months out of the year. Still runs just as good as the day we bought it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaw