After finding this article on the internet,i made this spoon to catch 25 bluegills. As soon as I get access to a computer, I can post the article. It is called a "flutter fry"
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After finding this article on the internet,i made this spoon to catch 25 bluegills. As soon as I get access to a computer, I can post the article. It is called a "flutter fry"
Fishing For Bluegill. The Flutter Fry.
they also have alot of other stuff that is useful!
When i lived in wisconsin we did the same thing for rainbows. We used the gold colored miller hi life can ,used a # 6 long shank hook. This was ice fishing in a dark house,you could see down 15 feet. We would lift about 6 ft. and let flutter down,they would suck it up like spagetti, 14# was the biggest rainbow for me. Granite
Interesting use of aluminum. Thanks for sharing this.
pretty cool,thanx
thanks for sharing!this will be easy for me to do for making spoons :D
Nice!
Thanks for sharing
Fatman
im having a bit of trouble getting the piece of can to not move around when its on the hook
Interesting article, Can someone post a picture of a finished one.
when in doubt J.B. Weld lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bxn
Use a needle nose pliers and squeeze the metal hard parallel to the hook and make sure you catch some of the hook bend with the metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by bxn
instead of aliminum could you use reflector tape
I tried makein one the other day and found I got the aluminum to stay tight by wrappin the hook shank with tyein thread.
Thanks , plan to try them out
I just made these while reading this thread.I used a V-8 small can.You can cut it with scissors like paper.I cut the two ends off,then down the middle.Laid a size 8 jighook and cut a length of it.Tiny can made four,lol.Probably 5/8 inch long from inside the bend to the eye of the hook.Found it easier to fold the aluminum first then put the hook through the fold before squeezing with needle nose pliers.I'm gonna try to powder paint them right now like a bluegill.Will show later with some eyes,lol.It is fun to do.
Powder paint won't work at all.Here's my talanted model painting.Most were all hard,so this is the best I could do,lol.I'm sure that if you try you can do much better,Ha
I suspect the powder paint won't work because the aluminum cools before you can get it into the paint... or will it not stick to the aluminum?Quote:
Originally Posted by azslabber
AZ, what happened with the PP? Did it run off or something else? I imagine you could take some rough sand paper and rough it up so the paint will stick if that is the issue. If it is a cooling issue then sprinkling the PP on one side at a time and then heating might make a difference.
I have a bunch of painting to do tonight so I will try some different things out to see if they work. I know some cans have a thin coating on them to seal them so that might the problem. I don't know of anything that will take it off short of hydrochloric acid, I guess college chemistry stuck with me after all. Maybe MEK will do it but I don't have any.
id be willing to bet nail polish will work for paint.ok i made one,and its kina staying on the hook good.some clear nail polish may help keep the hook and alum together a little more too.could probably do a fire tiger pattern on it with bright orange and chartreuse nail polish :)
I put the toaster oven as high as it would go and the paint just won't stick to the aluminum I guess.The model paint stuck,lol.
Must be a coating on the aluminum. Guess it is just a nail polish lure.
They look good. Wonder how they would work with some feathers or something to cover the hook???
Them things are lighter then flies,lol.They are DONE !!!
I've got a couple with powder paint on them curing in the toaster oven now, I'll post pics when I'm done.;)
I want to know how you did it.lol.
I cheated!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by azslabber
I used a #4 jig hook. I used a penny and a dime as templates to cut discs out of a Pepsi can. I had intended to use the dime size first and then cover it up with the penny sized disc, but the penny size was just a little too big... so I just used 2 dime sized one on top of the other. I did this so it would hold the heat a little longer for the trip from the oven to the paint jar.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...g/DSC02065.jpg
I sanded the outside of the Pepsi can a little with 150 grit to roughen it up a little to make sure the paint stuck well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...g/DSC02066.jpg
You can see the scratches on the can.
For the first coat of paint, I preheated the to 400*F to get the spoons good and hot. After that I was able to heat and cure at 375*. The 2 layers of aluminum (4 halves) had little gaps between them, so I coated and cured them until the gaps were full. This seems to hold everything together nicely and holds the spoon on the hook real well too!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ofDSC02068.jpg
I call the one on the left "Baby Bluegill" and the one on the right "Baby Shad".;)
They're a little bigger and heavier than the #8 hook size, but I believe they'll still catch them big Bull 'Gills... and that's the ones we really want eh!
wow lookin nice! :)
Very well done,lol.I've still got my aluminum strips laying here and am going to make a couple that look just like a little gill.I'll post some pics tonight after I figure out what I'm going to do.
AZ, did you try putting the paint on and then heating them? GCD, well done! Those should work really well. I like the black glitter.
I figured it all out,lol.Not really worth the time involved,but started and had to finish.Cooling off right now,then a couple of stick on eyes,then I'll show it.
One tiny bluegill,lol.Took as much time as doing 30 jigs.Had to base with black,then transparent chartruse 5 times,lol.Then the bottom orange.The whole bottom is sealed.
I'm done now.They were starting to grow on me.The article says that they last for years without a largemouth grabbing them up.We'll see.Made some size 4 baitholder hooks also for them largemouth,lol.Heat them up for 8 minutes on 400 degrees and dip twice.Keep it at 400 degrees for about 20 minutes.Make sure you bend them paint side out,if you bend the inside out of the can the powder won't stick to it.
... ya'll done made some purty lookin thingies :p .... but, I gots some questions for ya :
1) How do they fall thru the water ? (slide straight down, glide side to side, flutter, tumble, ???) I'm going to assume that they're ultralight in weight, so they won't be falling fast ... just curious as to what action they have, as they fall.
2) Has anyone actually used any of them, yet ? And how'd they work ?
3) I know ya'll are "artists" (I've seen your work) ... but, have any of you made any of these thingies by simply picking the color of aluminum can (or portion thereof) that you want your bait to be ?? No painting necessary, eyes optional, lettering/logo design could be used as the bait's scale/color pattern. (Like "Granite" did for Trout ;) )
4) Anyone consider trying to put a dab of something in between the sides of the folded aluminum circle, like lead or solder, to add weight ?? Good idea - bad idea ... or is it even feasible ?
Just throwing this out there, for you guys to consider (or reject) :p Closest I've come to doing anything even remotely close to what ya'll do, is pour lead sinkers & insert jigheads. And I haven't fooled with making either of those, in decades :p
Ya'll keep up the great work you're doing ... Lookin good, fellers, lookin good !!
... cp :cool:
I have'nt had one near the water yet.Since I read your post I chucked one in the kitchen sink and it just fluttered to the bottom,Really slow.I made one side look like a gill and the other just the aluminum can itself with an eye glued to it.So,it could be a shad or a gill,whichever the GIANT bluegill wants,lol.
1. Like AZ said, I tried mine in the sink too and it was a fluttering slow fall. These things are very light weight and I intend to use mine under a weighted bobber for casting distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
2. I haven't tried mine yet either, but have a lot of confidence in the pearl white shad imitation. I have a mental picture of huge Bluegill, 2 lb. Spotted Bass, and Stripers inhaling that thing!:p
3. I think the blue color of a regular Pepsi can would make a great Bluegill color, and the gold of a Miller High Life can would be another great color.
4. You could prolly solder the 2 folded halves togetherfor added weight, but that would prolly increase the fall rate... but would add casting distance without a weighted bobber.
The powder paint on mine adds weight and bonds everything together, but they're still very light. Prolly 1/64 oz., and with the shape of them I think they'd be very hard to cast by themselves.
I'll be trying mine the next time I'm out and will report back.
If you ever do any "dock shooting" for Crappie ... those would probably work pretty good. I'm thinking late Fall, when the water gets cool, & the Shad start dying off (esp after a quick temp change) ... they'd look like a dying Shad ;)
As light as they are, however, they may present a little problem "shooting" them any distance. Not sure they'd skip too well, either .... so it might take a "aerial" shot, to get it back under the dock. By that I mean shooting it "in the air" all the way back as far as you can, without trying to skip it across the water's surface along the way. With lowered water levels, this is a bit easier in the Fall than it would be in the Spring.
You know .. while thinking about it, I wonder if a BB splitshot crimped on the neck of the hook would provide enough weight for casting/shooting ?? I'm thinking putting it on the upward shank of the hook, where the line tie eye is .... THEN bending the alum. disk over the main shank of the hook. That might force the disk to bend around the beginning of the curve of the hook, too.
I'm also thinking that a weighted float wouldn't work (to detect a strike) :eek: ... I mean, how would you know if/when one hit it on the fall :confused: A second of having the hard aluminum in their mouths, and they'd likely spit it. These "thingies" seem to be more of a 'direct line' kinda bait ... and require a quick hookset.
Just stirring the pot :D .... trying to get the creative juices flowing, by offering some outsider questions. Hope ya don't mind :p
... cp :cool:
Ok, with all that negativity... I'm just going to throw them in the garbage now!:mad:....:p:DQuote:
Originally Posted by crappiepappy
I think the weighted float will work, I plan to fish the spoon about 4' from the float and will be counting the spoon down and then pulling the float about 4' to bring the spoon back up for another fall. I'll be fishing close to cover and expect the fish to run out and grab it and then turn immediately to run back to cover, thus signaling a strike on the float. If this doesn't work I'll put a small split shot on about 2' ahead of the spoon and try a hop and drop presentation.
I have an UL combo with 4 lb. test and will try casting it by itself... but the aerodynamics of the spoon don't look good for the weight of it.
I thought about putting a splitshot on the shank of the hook just below the hook eye before I powder painted it, but wasn't sure what that would do to the action. I may do that later if I make more of them.
I don't do any dock shooting... too much hassle fighting the other Crappie fishermen, the Bass fishers, and dock owners.
btw.. I couldn't let AZS outdo me with the eyes he put on his, so I added some to mine.;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...g/DSC02069.jpg
Looking good....now for the on the water test. :)
You are gonna send me some of them, right :confused: :D :D
I think you got the right idea on that shad pattern ... but, it'd be cheaper to just paint a black dot behind the eye, rather than putting on a second eye ;)
Let me know how you do with them, when you get a chance to try them out ;)
Where I do most of my dock shooting, I don't have to worry too much about other people .... especially in the Oct/Nov timeframe. Well, except/unless DonG & crew are there ... then I just have to worry about getting to them first, before he fishes them dry :p
Keep up the good work on all these new baits you guys are coming up with .... ya'll are something else, now, I'm tellin ya !! You guys have got me seriously thinking about buying another tackle box :eek: .... just to hold all these new creations ;)
... cp :cool: