Oil washing ashore

The news reported oil washing ashore at whisky pass in Terrebonne parish..the problem with this is that there is no solid chain of islands anymore..so virtually no way to stop the oil from coming further inland..the wind is blowing in a bad direction for us here in Terrebonne...and to top it off this is the prime time for fishing the islands...not to mention shrimp season..for me this is beyond words..its like watching a friend drown and there is nothing you can do about it..maybe i can help with the clean up when this is all over with...for now its just a sad day

I agree very sad to see this ruin the fishing down there.

Been following it on the news
It is truly a sad day

BP will be paying through the nose for this accident. Unfortunately many good people are going to lose their livelihood over the ruined fishing down there.

It is an unfortunate accident that's for sure,but we need the oil rigs out there they do more than just extract oil,they also proide some of the best fishing in the world,just to bad something like this had to happen,seems like they would have some emergency response plans to deal with something like this instead of going to the drawing board after the fact.I don't understand how they don't have a contigency plan for any kind of imagianable accident so they could move quickly.

this disaster is like closing Poverty Point, Darbonne, Caney..and every lake lake in the northern part of the state due to some oilfield disaster....it is huge and affects many many fisherman, bait shops, hotels, camp rentals, etc.it affects the way of life for many people...and they cant stop it....

It amazes me how little prepared BP seemed to be for such a disaster. The oil companies had to know there was potential for such an incident. Now that it happened they are experimenting with ways to stop it????? Now our great congress is holding hearing on what caused it. For Gods sake, everyone should be focusing on stopping it first. Law suits, you damn right. If BP doesn't pay through the nose, there is no reason for this not to happen again. It appears the greatest fishing area in the world may be destroyed. What a sad event!

Gentleman,
As bad as this may seem, I think it will be just another bump in the road for the fishing along the Gulf Coast. I may just be over optimistic, but I feel as though they will have this leak stopped or at least slowed soon and the permanent damage from this will be minimal. At least I hope this is the case.

Crappdaddy...i like your optimism..but the 2 things i have learned from living here all my life is that you cant trust the gov...and ya cant trust the oil guys for doing the right thing...its all about the dollar and seldom about whats good for the environment..they dig canals then close them off to fisherman..and there many more examples of abuse..but thats a subject for another day..i know we need the oil and it does provide jobs..but there should be some forethought and safe guards..

Heard or read that it will be 2-3 years before it is cleaned up
than another bunch of years before it gets back to normal

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Heard or read that it will be 2-3 years before it is cleaned up
than another bunch of years before it gets back to normal

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it aint gonna be that bad, thats just the liberal media at work.

I heard the blowout was an "Act of God", so BP doesn't have to pay anything.

underradar, Oh hell no. I know you from another website. Please be nice, Ha.

I flew over that mess last week, it's bad but I think the news folks are really blowing it up. Don't get me wrong I hate to see it and it is a mess out there, but I also think it is a bump in the road for us. You know the extream tree huggers will be blaming anything that happens along the coast for the next 50 years on this too. I really feel for the guys who make a living from fishing.

Yes it is Sad but I do admire the people who are not going to give up. My wife and I travel to your state often and just love your people. I know with all my heart in time this will pass and know the people will not give up. They are great people of Tradition and courage. Storms or Oil will not stop them. Our Prayers are with you.

There are now news reports saying that it may have been something as simple as a battery that would have closed the valves that was in place that did fail,but you know how the media loves to speculate about what coulda,shoulda,woulda.I do think that the outfit doing the drilling is more at fault than bp,afterall bp contracted that outfit to drill that well and doing it right falls on their hands.If I hired someone to do a job and they screwed it up for what ever reason they would be more to blame than me,unless they told me of the dangers and I told them to go ahead anyway.

Beau...i am far from a tree huger..hate peta..but the reality is that there was a shrimper who had his boat confiscated by the coast guard for shrimping in an area that was open as of yesterday...if anything the news guys aren't doing enough..as of today most of the water i would be fishing right now is closed..and the spill is still out of control..i would call this more than a bump in the road..have many friends who are guides..loosing money by cancellations...

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There are now news reports saying that it may have been something as simple as a battery that would have closed the valves that was in place that did fail,but you know how the media loves to speculate about what coulda,shoulda,woulda.I do think that the outfit doing the drilling is more at fault than bp,afterall bp contracted that outfit to drill that well and doing it right falls on their hands.If I hired someone to do a job and they screwed it up for what ever reason they would be more to blame than me,unless they told me of the dangers and I told them to go ahead anyway.

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Doesn't matter who's contracted out for a job... if BP owns the rig and the well... it's BPs problem regardless of who did what. It's called business responsibility... if BPs name is on that well then their responsible for everything that happens from this disaster.
BP should've been better prepared for blowouts and have procedures in place to handle things like this when they happen not after they happen.

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Doesn't matter who's contracted out for a job... if BP owns the rig and the well... it's BPs problem regardless of who did what. It's called business responsibility... if BPs name is on that well then their responsible for everything that happens from this disaster.
BP should've been better prepared for blowouts and have procedures in place to handle things like this when they happen not after they happen.

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I agree with you 100%,all I am saying is that bp may own the well but they were not the ones actually doing the drilling,you surly agree that the drilling company has to bear the brunt of the responsability for what actually caused the blowout,but bp should have procedures in place for any and all accidents instead of having to put something in place after the fact.You might would fell different if you hired someone to drill a well you owned and they caused an accident because they screwed the pouch,nothing you did caused the accident purly the fault of the drilling crew,you would still be held accountable but I bet you would'nt be too happy about it.

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Beau...i am far from a tree huger..hate peta..but the reality is that there was a shrimper who had his boat confiscated by the coast guard for shrimping in an area that was open as of yesterday...if anything the news guys aren't doing enough..as of today most of the water i would be fishing right now is closed..and the spill is still out of control..i would call this more than a bump in the road..have many friends who are guides..loosing money by cancellations...

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I just wish the news people would stop speculating ,they should at least get some facts before spouting off all what coulda caused this ,ect.I also hate what has happened and I feel for those that are feeling the effects of the spill like guides ect,but these same guides also make alot of money taking clients out to fish these very rigs.I still fell sorry for them,I myself was just about to book a fishing trip for reds and specs out of VENICE but changed my mind when this happened,I hope they get a handle on this so all those guys can get back to work and I hope it does'nt do too much damage.BP should have been better prepared for something like this,that's the bottom line.It is taking way too long to stop that leak.

Everyone has some valid points concerning this disaster..and it is true that we fisherman have a love /hate relationship with the oil companies..those rigs are great fish attractors...many of the bayou's provide great fishing also...but for this leak to be out of control for this long, and no one with an answer on how to really stop it...is just plain unacceptable..

We aren't the One who knows all, sees all, and can do all. We are just his humble servants and must do the best we can with our limited knowledge. I am sure they are doing all they can to stop it but one mile under the gulf is like another world. They will get it , may be the relief well but they will get it. Just like any other disaster that happens, we will overcome it.

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I agree with you 100%,all I am saying is that bp may own the well but they were not the ones actually doing the drilling,you surly agree that the drilling company has to bear the brunt of the responsability for what actually caused the blowout,but bp should have procedures in place for any and all accidents instead of having to put something in place after the fact.You might would fell different if you hired someone to drill a well you owned and they caused an accident because they screwed the pouch,nothing you did caused the accident purly the fault of the drilling crew,you would still be held accountable but I bet you would'nt be too happy about it.

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While I understand your point BP is ultimately the one at fault. THEY hired the drilling crew to do a job for them and it's BPs bottom line and name on that well.
Let's say for example I own an armed security company and I hire "guards" to do the work on my clients properties... and one of my guards over reacts and wrongfully shoots and kills someone... while the guard in question may face criminal charges... I own the company, I hired the moron and put him on that site... his death would be indirectly my responsibility therefore I garuntee you I will see the inside of a courtroom while being sued by the victims family for wrongful death damages... more than likely losing everything I own. That's the nature of the beast and the responsibility one takes when hiring outside contractors to do the work... ultimately whoever has the responsibility of over seeing the work or owns the well is the one at fault even if they did nothing to actually cause whatever accident happens.

I also feel really bad for the 11 families that lost their loved ones. To me everything else doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

LSUguy, you are as right as rain. However, when an operator hires a drilling contractor, there is a clause in the contract that stipulates that the contractor carry a predetermined amount of insurance. In many cases that I am aware of, the contractor's insurance covered some of the expenses incurred by an accident, but never all of them.
Transocean's insurance will almost assuredly pay a large sum for this mess, but not nearly all of it, no matter what is finally determined to be the cause of it all. As I recall from my days as a drilling foreman for the late and great Gulf Oil Co, Halliburton should be held harmless (Sort of) unless a malfunction in their equipment - or negligence from their representatives on the rig - led to the accident. In this case, it's quite likely that the "recipe" for the cement that was pumped just prior to the blowout was at least in part the brainchild of BP drilling engineers. If there was a blatant error in its design, Halliburton could have raised the point, but the final call on the make-up of the slurry is BP's.
And the guys who went down with their ship - and who were probably doing their upmost to shut the well in - should receive the highest commendations.
Pete

lsu guy I get it i really do and although accidents will happen it is just crazy bp and whoever else is responsible are taking this long to stop the leak,should have a plan already in place and ready to go.

I will post some elses 2 cents worth I found on the net regarding who owned what and who did what.....FYI only....not taking sides with anyone but it appears BP did not own anything.....just hired a lot of companies....I believe this info came from the congressional investigation....

Here it is........

This can't be right: A powerful corporation making a risky decision that put costs ahead of environmental safety? That's crazy talk!

About 11 hours before the Deepwater Horizon exploded, a disagreement took place between the top manager for oil giant BP PLC on the drilling rig and his counterpart for the rig's owner, Transocean Ltd., concerning the final steps in shutting down the nearly completed well, according to a worker's sworn statement.

Michael Williams, a Transocean employee who was chief electronics technician on the rig, said there was "confusion" between those high-ranking officials in an 11 a.m. meeting on the day of the rig blast, according to a sworn statement from Mr. Williams reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. Mr. Williams himself attended the meeting.

The confusion over the drilling plan in the final hours leading up to the explosion could be key to understanding the causes of the blowout and ultimately who was responsible.

What is known from drilling records and congressional testimony is that after the morning meeting, the crew began preparations to remove from the drill pipe heavy drilling "mud" that provides pressure to keep down any gas, and to replace this mud with lighter seawater.

Ultimately, the crew removed the mud before setting a final 300-foot cement plug that is typically poured as a last safeguard to prevent combustible gas from rising to the surface. Indeed, they never got the opportunity to set the plug.

[...] Typically well owner BP would have final say, since it was paying roughly $1 million a day to lease the rig and pay for services from 12 companies that had people on the rig.

What is clear is that workers soon began displacing the mud. Later that afternoon a pressure test provided ambiguous readings, a possible sign of gas seeping in, according to what Rep. Henry Waxman says a BP executive told House investigators. Eventually, in the evening, after further tests, BP made a decision to carry forth in removing more drilling mud. The rig blew about 10 p.m.

Just got this in from a friend.......

Amazed at the story of the DeepWater Horizon oil well accident in the Gulf of Mexico??? It's happened before !
In the Gulf of Mexico ! It is known as the Bay of Campeche Oil Spill. This Rig was owned by the Mexicans.
The well was called " Ixtoc I " It took 9 months to stop that leak and it was in waters 160 feet deep ! (The current spill in the Gulf of Mexico is 5,000 + feet down ! )


On June 3, 1979 the Ixtoc I well blew. In the next nine months, experts and divers (including Red Adair) were brought in to contain and cap the oil well. Approximately an average of ten thousand barrels(420,000 gallons) to thirty thousand barrels (1,260,000 gallons) per day were discharged into the Gulf until it was finally capped on March 23, 1980. Prevailing currents carried the oil towards the Texas coastline. The US government had two months to prepare booms to protect major inlets. Eventually, in the US, 162 miles of beaches and 1421 birds were affected by 3,000,000 barrels of oil (126,000,000 gallons of oil ). Mexico rejected US requests to be compensated for cleanup costs.

By the way, the Exxon Valdez leaked 250,000 barrels (10,500,000 gallons of oil) That's 12 times less than was spilled in the Bay of Campeche ! Recent estimates show the current spill in the Gulf is inline with the amounts spilled in the Bay of Campeche Oil Spill.

So stay tuned...this aint over yet !

Read the "accident" paragraph at this link to see what probably happened in the DeepWater Horizon accident:
Ixtoc I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well my uncles sons mommas bothers sisters grandsons grandpas wife's aunts child's teachers daddy's best friends grandma told me that Chavez swam up from South America with a hack saw and sawed the legs off of the rig making it blowup. Look, we all know something terrible happened out there, but no one knows for sure right now. A lot of different thing could have went wrong causing it, but until it is stopped no one will know for absolutely what went wrong. When it is over they will retrieve the BOP stack and then maybe we will know for sure. All the blogger, reporters that are writing about it for sure don't know what is going on and what went on at the time it happened. You can all set here and be arm chair quarterbacks but until you have been in a real game or are in one now you don't know either. I think we need to give them time with out laying blame when we have no idea where to lay it the benefit of doubt. I don't think no one out there on that rig done anything on purpose to cause it, and in hind sight might do some things differently. So I guess what I am trying to say is that if you live in a glass house and have never had an accident then go ahead and throw your stones. But remember, you may be in that same situation one of these days and need someone to cut you a little slack. Just my humble opinion.

BLAME YOURSELVES!!!! It's your bloodthirsty lust for oil products that drives this industry day after day. Americans love their toys and we have lots of them. Cars, Trucks, Boats, 4 Wheelers, Lawn mowers, Etc etc. Oil is also used to make thousands of products you probably don't even realize. Heres a small list to give you an idea about how nearly everything in your modern life is made from oil byproducts.



Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn


Nearly everything in our lives is made from oil, made by machinery and systems dependent on oil, and transported by oil as either gas or diesel fuel.

So blame BP all you want, the amount of oil we as a nation require is almost incomprehensable. We have to drill in dangerous places and under extreme conditions to find more so that we won't have to do without our modern luxuries. When you have so many drilling operations going on around the world, sooner or later a mistake will happen. All humans are fallable!!

One last point which I'm sure has been brought up before. These big oil companies pay literally BILLIONS & BILLIONS of dollars to the US Government in taxes. Some of which was supposed to be set aside in case of emergencies like this one. In my opinion the Fed Govt response was very weak and they placed most of it on the backs of BP.

Oil companies face an immediate tax rise of 1 cent per barrel to help to pay for the clean-up in the Gulf of Mexico under proposed legislation rushed out by the White House. WOW, just more opportunities for the Fed Govt to increase it's taxes. You think they will really take all the extra money from this proposed tax hike on oil companies and put it into an oil spill protection fund? Nah, the politicians will find ways to rob the fund with piggy back amendmends attached to bills for their home states.

This whole thing makes me sick in all honesty. To me it's everyones fault not just BP's. It's my fault for consuming so much oil and driving up demand. It's BP's fault for a possibly snap decision, it's the govt's fault for not being better prepared especially with all the money they take from the oil companies.

Again, everyone has some valid points...but for those of us who actually live along the coast it is still unacceptable..this is not the first disaster caused by poor regulations..example they placed a toxic oil waste dump next to a neighborhood on the bourg-larose hwy..it wasn't until all the residents were getting ill did they do anything about it..and even with hard data ,the gov..was still reluctant to close it..marine shale in Morgan city was another example..took years to close even though they new it was causing these rare cancers...its all about cutting corners and all the while the big oil guys are making billions in profits..im not against companies making profits, but public safety should come first..fyi..they never asked Louisianan's if it was ok to drill off our coast..its been here since i was born..i say let Florida or California take a turn..