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Which is best? Looking at buying some. I'm using Marabou, Mallard Flank, and some hen hackle paired up with flashabou. I'm getting tired of using just feathers and looking for something new. I've tried using Deer belly on my gill jigs but it DOES NOT last very long at all :mad:, so I'm wanting either Buck or Kip from crazy angler. Please Help me out guys :confused:.
I use very little bucktail or kiptail. I use a lot of marabou and rabbit zonker strips. On small jigs 1/32 and under I like to use cross cut. Bigger jigs I go with the straight cut. Movement in the water is what I go buy and of course fishing success. marabou and bunny fur fill the bill on both criteria.
tie up a bunny jig and put it a clear container with water. I would bet you like what you see.
personaly for crappie I would rather have the kiptail
Try the kip, bucktail is more for bigger jigs (1/4-3 oz).
I use both and with equal success. Kip tail is wavy where bucktail lays straight. Make sure you give squirrel tail a shot also, sell a lot of jigs tied with it.:)
If I'm tying brim patterens I go with the bucktail dosn't hold up as long as the kip the squirrel last even longer the kip is best for most patterens squirrel for minnows unless You want to flare it I fish only kip and squirrel jigs in the dead of winter. period! don't us feathers till the fish are well in their run to the nest.
Kiptail all the way!!
JJ
I use both bucktail and kip. the bucktail is used for 1/16 and 3/32 bucktail jigs, with the hair about 2 inches long. these are for casting around brushpiles and pilings. the kiptail, I use for pinkie type jigs, 1/16, and keep that hair about 1-1 1/2 inches long. so they are both excellent for different things.
I use both for tying flies, but use kiptail for jigs. It has a bit more volume to my eyes, and is a little softer. Also, I would NOT tie jigs with deer belly. That hair flares a lot, so it would not be ideal for this purpose. Deer belly is what is used for deer hair bass poppers, muddler minnows, and things where they spin it and clip to shape.
If you want something a little different, get some arctic fox. It's somewhere between kiptail and rabbit...
1/32 oz and smaller jigs, rabbit is definitely the way to go! Love the action it has over marabou.
I use a lot of Kip.I really like it.Bucktail I use only for jigs bigger then 1/4 oz.
Have lots of Bucktail for tying, but don't like to use it my self. Have learned to use Kiptails fishing some, but primary I use and fish with feathers. I do have lots of Fox tails of different colors and some Arctic Fox, lots of Rabbit, Squirrel and more.
I caught some crappie this year using kip tail and want to try the fox more and more as I like it length and it's flexibility. Now Arctic Fox is probably the finest hair I have seen that is long, but it is harder to deal with when it tangles it self around the hook and it harder to deal with that say marabou. I do feel it will out last marabou, but I don't worry when I can catch 50 or more on marabou and even thought the fish thin it when hitting, it still last enough for me.
Any of you that shop online stores have surely seen how many types of products (both fake and real) say it's a lot like marabou, LOL! I find that statement which all of them use to be the real tell. Nothing has the action of marabou and everyone want to pitch a product by saying it's a lot like marabou and if one wants something like marabou why not just use marabou, LOL!
Anyway that is my 2 cents.
I would use kiptail before I use bucktail. Sometimes I add just two strands of bucktail for effect.
1st choice - hackle
2nd choice - marabou or kiptail
Kip for smaller jigs and bucktail on larger 1/8 and up. Deer belly only for spinning into bugs for fly fishing.
Fatman
Thanks guys, and now also looking at maybe calfts tail, any takes on it?
A calf tail and kip tail is the same thing
Have'nt you seen any of them little Kips that are in a fenced part of the barn yard?It's like the little Mo's for them mohair sweaters,lol.
My only problem with bucktail for smaller jigs is you throw away 3/4 of the hair you cut off unless you want it 4" long. That's a waste for me as I tie saltwater jigs and want the 4-6" long hair.
Order a couple of kiptails (calf tails, same thing) and try them. They work pretty good especially on bream.