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got the boat inspected the other day. and I did not pass, my fire extinguisher was not mounted, it was readly accessable but not mounted, so I got a no check, and I didn't have a marine radio. so got a no checked on it. have anyone been checked by the water patrol or coast guard and failed because of a radio. I got the fire extingusher mounted. ( now it's hard to get out) but never heard of having to have a radio. everything else passed, (yes I eaven had a cushion).
inspector, and he was amazed that I passed his check, nothing was said about a radio or my fire ext. being mounted, but guess there rules have changed, I know once he inspected it and put a sticker on the boat, no one ever bothered me anymore......:)
Didn't see anything in the book about needing a radio, guess I better get one just to be safe.
Never heard about a marine radio and I have been checked several times on Table Rock but it's been a long time since I was out on the Rock.
I would question the marine radio. I would say it's necessary on the ocean or the great lakes ,but not in small inland waters.
I got mine checked about a month ago on Truman by MO water patrol. He gave me a sticker to put on the boat for passing it. He did check that the fire ext. was mounted. Never said any thing about a radio though. He did check my life jackets and throwable out real good. He liked that I had a whistle even though I had a horn. Nice guy and explained a few things to me that I did not know about.
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Originally Posted by Jigging15
Got checked by the warden in Angel last Tue morning. Checked licenses and fish. Good thing we had em seperated. He asked how many we each had caught and I told him I wasn't sure because I wasn't close to my limit just yet. (I only had 11 beads pulled down on the counter) I told him the ones in the right side were mine and he could count them if he liked. He said he didn't need to....they looked fine. He was a real nice guy. Very cordial and professional.
The radio is a first for me also Beagle. I happen to have a portable marine radio with a holder mounted in my boat but dont always take it with me. I like it for the weather alerts.
Bob that would have been Andy B. We ran into him
Tuesday also. Great guy. I may throw in my cheap weather radio. Would be handy to check for bad weather coming in. Will try to find it before camp.
I have been checked twice by the coast guard and nothing has ever been said about a marine radio. One inspector did say it would be nice if I had one. The fire extinguisher does have to be mounted.
OK, FOLLOW UP no radio needed, but yes on the fire ex. being mounted, cant be laying by my seat easy to get to,, oh no has to be mounted so a stranger can see it, oh laying by my throttle,is not easy to see, oh well, anyway glad I almost passed, just needed the darn thing mounted, well it is now, I also have a whistle,and horn (thanks to the kdpawabj) he gave me his card so guess I can call him and get reinspected, thanks all
You would think they would want it more accesible than they would have it mounted. Mine is under the driver side console.
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Originally Posted by Jigging15
South Louisiana has hundreds of miles of bayous and manmade pipeline canals and few real lakes. Most of the manmade canals are used by oilfield workboats so someone is usually around. The coast guard and crew boats monitor the radio.
I got a marine radio for safety sake. A $130 investment will look very small if you ever need help. You can get lost very easy back in those canals and if you need help it may be hard to see you as opposed to being on an open lake. I also carry one of those flashing strobe lights so someone could find me if necessary. Some GPS units and Marine radios can be interlocked. The radio will have a red emergency button (for use in life threatening situations) which will broadcast your coordinates to the coast guard. Our GW have this on their boats. I also carry flares, whistle and horn.
But my fire extenguisher is not bolted down and now I know it should. Looks like it would have come that way.
This might interest you. It's from the US Coast Guard Auxiliary and US Power Squadrons vessel safety check website.
Reasons you may not pass a vessel safety inspection.
FOUND THIS IN THE MO. BOAT SAFETY REG.'S
NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IT HAS TO BE ATTACHED OR MOUNTED..
BEAGLE WAS IT THE REAL C/G OR THE WANABE AUX,,,,USE TO HAVE ISSUES WITH THEM ON LOZ ABOUT THE WHISTLE I USED AND NOT A HORN,,,,,
Fire Extinguishers
All vessels are required to have a Type B, USCG-approved fire extinguisher onboard if one or
more of the following conditions exist:
• Closed storage compartments in which flammable or combustible materials are stored
• Closed living spaces
• Permanently installed fuel tanks (tanks with tie-down straps or clamps that hinder
removal)
• Flammable or toxic fluids onboard.
Approved fire extinguishers are identified by the label “Marine Type USCG Approved,” followed
by the size and type symbols and the approval number.
Extinguishers should be easily accessible - not near the engine or in a compartment, but
where they can be reached immediately. All extinguishers should be checked annually to
ensure they are charged.
Sound producing devices
• Vessels greater than 16 feet but less than 40 feet long must carry onboard a whistle,
horn or other means to make an efficient sound signal to signal intentions or p
You are mixing 3 different agencies/groups together. The Missouri State Water Patrol, state agency which can and will if they want to inspect your boat at any time on the water and can and sometimes will write you a citation for various violations. The U.S. Coast Guard, rarely seen in the state of missouri but do have some federal law enforcement capability on inland waters although they very seldom use it. The Coast Guard Auxilary, no enforcement powers whatsoever, can perform voluntary boat inspections but cannot require you to submit to the inspection, if you don't pass you simply don't get the sticker, thay cannot write you a citation nor can they detain you. They do a lot of good things on public lakes and provide some great safety information and trainings, however in years past I have had "issues" with some of them and have basically ignored them for years where possible. There are a bunch of great guys & gals in the Coast Guard Auxillary, but there are a few jerks that think they are cops too, unfortunately those are the ones you usually remember. I didn't even add in the Missouri Department of Conservation Agents who can I believe write you a ticket for many violations outside of game laws but seldom do. Just for confusion sake here is another agency than can write you a citation for some things, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, currently they do not have enforcement authority over laws pertaining to boat registrations, wildlife laws, or many other things, but some things like operation a vessel in violation of posted restrictions (buoys) yep they can, and other districts have passed some mandatory PFD wear regulations that they can enforce with citations, hopefully it won't come to that here since Missouri has lakes in 3 different Corps of Engineer Districts and unless they all adopted the same regulation you might have to follow different rules on Table Rock Vs., Stockton, Vs, Mark Twain. Gotta love it when various federal, state and other agencies try to mix and match their rules.
sounds about right to me MOPanfisher, this was a coast guard aux. and he was real nice,and he explained just about everything you said, almost word for word, oh well I was legal except for the mounted fire ex. now thats mounted and I am sittin on ready for the next agency to visit with me. so far this year I have met the water patrol. real nice guy, the conservation agent, super nice guy,, cg aux. nice guy, park ranger, nice guy. and one ole drunk. mean guy.
The mean drunk was just irritated 'cause he was drinkin' the cheap stuff instead of the C.R sittin' by your sink Beagle:D
I usually carry a portable Amateur (ham) radio with me so I can access some of the local repeaters and summon help if the cell don't work. It also has weather radio capabilities and I can transmit and receive the marine frequencies as well. I've thought about adding a cheap flare gun, but have procrastinated and not bought one yet.
So far this year I have stopped to assist 2 boaters with engine problems and gave another a tow. They remarked that not a lot of folks will stop to offer help these days, so some means of getting help is advisable
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Originally Posted by beagle man
I always stop and help, and you will find like yourself,most if not all on the CDC will also help, we pass out phone no. so if your in another area, you have that persons no. to call for help, I use to have an ole saying my grandma taught me.
IT'S NICE TO BE IMPORTANT BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO BE NICE. grandma jenkins
I always stop to help someone if I realize they need assistance whether I'm in an "official" boat or in my own fishing boat. Reason being, I've been that guy in the other boat before, or in that other vehicle that won't start or is stuck in the mud etc. etc. etc. It sure is a good feeling to have someone stop to help.
I pulled an older couple off a stump in Cedar Creek 10 days or so ago. I would want someone to help me.
A couple of quick comments.
1- I have a VHF radio on my boat. Although it is not working now, when it was functional there was no one in Kansas to talk to! It seems VHFs are not big on the KS lakes. I had it because I fished the Gulf. It got a little outdated a few years ago and I just left it on the boat, instead of taking it off after every trip, and it just conked out. I will replace it before my next trip to the Gulf. Do many folks on the Missouri side use VHF?
2-I may be an old fart, but when I was growing up I learned that when you are out on the water and someone else needs help that you are OBLIGATED to help unless you have to put your life or property in danger. I realize that times have changed but that was an unwritten rule that should not have changed. Maybe that was just because I was born and raised on an island :)
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Originally Posted by psilvers
I'm probably a young fart (30) compared to you then, but I was raised the same way. Especially on the misssissippi.
I know I've towed or jumped several folks on the water that I wouldn't normally give the time of day.
slabho
I've been a water bug since I was an infant, and have always owned several boats. So I've been the Tow-er and the Tow-ee more times than I can count, I've had shear pins and tools in my boat when other folks have needed them, and I've borrowed tools, parts, (and even a spare prop) before when I was in a pinch. I always figure do unto others as you would have them do unto you... and karma has a way of coming back around.
Don't have a radio in my boats, but in most of the places we fish nowadays, a cell phone is sufficient.
Gentlemen, as SPORTSMEN that's what we do. No discussion ever to the contrary.
Sounds like the CG AUX checked you. On inland waters a radio is not required however they do like you to carry your cell phone.
Now the great lakes is a different story. You will NOT launch without the sticker. And you WILL have a marine radio, horn, flairs(hand held not a flair gun), If you take a flair GUN into Canadian water's its a hefty fine, also tow ropes, pfd's and bilge pumps, first aid kit, fire extinguisher in the boat to receive the sticker. And yes the extinguisher must be mounted.
In bass events on the great lakes, they will have two automatic 1000gph bilge pumps plus a manual
pump if they have room in the bilge, then they will mount 2 auto pumps on the floor of the boat.
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Originally Posted by MOPanfisher
I have towed other boats to the ramp and have been towed . I have helped folks out who were having difficulty launching or landing their boat .
I have a hand-held Radio-Shack radio I think I'll put in the glove box. I wonder if the rationale for the radio is for weather reports or for communication to others in case of emergency? My hand-held has a weather-radio capability I have listened to for threatening weather reports.
The emergency bands on VHF near most larger bodies of water are monitored by law enforcement. Doesn't mean they gonna answer you if you ask for a radio check, but its nice to have a radio on board since they may be able to communicate with you in the event of an emergency.
Even if they do not monitor, they might try to hail you via VHF if you are overdue or reported missing. You can pick up hand help 4 watt marine VHFs for 100 bucks or less. And the weather alerts are nice to have.
coast gaurd regs. are for all inland waterways. Thier regs are stricter than state. also boats over a certian length are required to have at least 3 signaling devices. flares ,radio smoke etc. If they let you go it was at thier own discretion.