camped with family this weekend witnesed lots of tents outside of motor homes with cords going in them and kept looking and there it was a pertty freezer with them putting fish in them is this legal
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camped with family this weekend witnesed lots of tents outside of motor homes with cords going in them and kept looking and there it was a pertty freezer with them putting fish in them is this legal
Call Mr Green Jeans and he will investigate it. My oppinion - NO, with one stipulation. How many limits there are in the freezer X people stayin in site!
If my memory serves me correctly. Only 3 limits per person can be in their possesion. I WOULD call the game warden and get him to check things out
I have seen commercial fisherman with the freezers before. Hey....when in doubt call the GW and let them check it out.
When i used to go for a week or so to enid we always had a freezer mainly for ice to keep our beer cold.
Guess as I've gotten older I respect things more. If to many people catch 100 fish a day when 30 is the limit, then you'll lose what you have. A perfect example would be Ross Barnett Spillway. There's a 30 limits down there and I KNOW I've seen many come out of there with 75-100 fish. Now you're lucky if you catch a fish over 2 pounds down there when that was the norm back just 3 or 4 years ago
There could be several good reasons why they would have a freezer in a tent, keeping their food in it so as not to have to keep running to the store, ice for their drinks.... tea that is and unsweet (i don't drink beer), but i would bet that it's there for the fish so i would call and have it checked out.
I agree with you guys. There are plenty of reasony to have it, but to keep illegal fish in it ain't one
They wouldnt have it in a TENT if they werent hiding it......yall mustv missed that point.
According to what I have read at the MDWFP site, they're not breaking the law. The only thing it says about possesion is you can only transport 7 daily creel limits per licensed fisherman. So, if there were 3 licensed fishermen in a vehicle they could have 21 limits of fish in their possesion.
T-Low you should have been a game warden.
Naw, their just keeping the freezer out of the hot sun guys, come' on...:)
yea you can have 210 fish or 420 filets in your freezer.
It's awfully hard to measure and count frozen fillets.
I'm with Mr Jim fish ....I bet there are some Bud's or some Lites in there somewhere....
Why not ask them why they have the freezer instead of speculating.
I would not worry about it if it was at Sardis they didnt have many limits anyway
I keep a small icemaker about the size of a dorm fridge outside my camper while I'm camping. It makes 40lbs a day and comes in real handy. Somebody might mistake that for a freezer untill they looked inside.
I fished Sardis this past week. Something I found to be quite a HOOT was the fella with Illinois boat registration, in the Blackwater "parking lot", complaining about the number of boats!!! I just nodded, and bit my tongue. I'm thinking as a non resident, maybe your limits should be a little smaller!! :D
Would they have to have a search warrant to search a freezer in a tent?
If they came up and asked to see your fish at your camp site I would think they don't have to have a warrant unless you say no and then they are gonna look anyway at that point and twice as hard.
If i am not mistaken a GW can enter at will to check game violation. This may be a Federal GW. Anybody heard this or am I way off.
i would think he has to have SEEN you commit a violation OR know of a violation in order to search your HOME but in a camp ground on a state lake, heck, now I'm confused...not sure now....never was actually...
I'm sure a lot depends too on if the violations are felonies...
Where's Possum-Cop?
The campers are on state property, not private property.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole Fisher
Sure that's not Federal Property?
now it's gettin real confusing....
I didn't think a game warden needing anything other than probable cause to search for game violations. I could be wrong.
in in. a gw has more power than a state trooper on search warent needed pop the trunk or any thing they want
bill bob is correct, plus probable cause can be about anything.
I think you are correct. The Fedral can go anywhere and do any thing.
I know this comes up each spring and is a touchy subject. I for do bring a small 3.2 cubic foot freezer with me that stays inside my popup camper. So far it has saved me a ton on ice and since I normally take a week during the spring and stay down at the campground I don't have to worry about fish spoiling as I can clean and freeze it the same day.
I dont normaly catch enough to worry about being over limit but I have seen others that I think abuse the limits. I always wondered if you could get a warden to check them out but I would have to say you had better be awful sure before you did.
But it's just in the campground, I watched a man last year pull up to the Pat's Bluff ramp the same time I did. I watched as he went to his truck,got a ice chest and emptied his live well ,took it back to his truck and headed back out.In the end it's not freezer issue it's a lack of respect for the law issue.
Maybe they dont want nobody fishing their freezer while they are fishing the lake?Quote:
Originally Posted by biggerjigger
IMAREBL , Welcome to Crappie.com....You are a new member here and you have only made four posts and your already bashing out of staters. The rules for the forum state no personal attacks...just so ya know. For your information We here on MS C.c have a lot of good friends in other states especialy Missouri. This was evidenced at our recent Spring cCamp and FJ Tournament at Enid Lake...as we had a good many Mo folks there as well as folks from TN, ARK, and even Indiana. That being said please refrain from running down out of staters on this board or any other board here at C.c in the future. You are welcome here but your also expected to go by the rules and treat others with respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by IMAREBL
Ironic that there is now a banner at the bottom of the page advertising "The Best Portable Freezers". Site must use some program that scans the posts for keywords and matches those keywords to specific adds.
There are a lot of reasons to keep supplies in a tent.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggerjigger
Keep sunlight off.
Keep wildlife off.
Keep neighbors off.
Keep rain off.
Keep wind off.
Freezers do get robbed, In Alaska you'll be robbed for sure it you Don't secure food. I've been across America twice on a bicycle. The short way from Santa cruz to DC and the long way from Seaward AK to Key west FL.
If you ever get robbed of all your food rib-eye,veal etc you won't be careless again . In AK people have been killed for food!
G-3, I have got to be honest with you, you're being just a little over-sensitive and too trigger happy on this particular subject. The statement that you say is "bashing" people from Missouri was a bet (you win the bet I give you a dollar, I win the bet you give me a doughnut). Apparently, commercial sale of crappie is legal in Missouri in some form or fashion. Enid and Sardis are targets that are high on the crappie harvesting lakes list. My step-grandmother was a park ranger at Enid Lake, and she was forever talking about how much of a problem there was with commercial fishermen taking home hundreds of fish. Each and every citation or arrest was a commercial fisherman from Missouri. So, you should be able to plainly see that I was not bashing anyone I was simply making a rhetorical wager that was based on pure fact!Quote:
Originally Posted by G-3 Fisherman
Now then, being a practical man, if I lived in an area that would allow me sell crappie I would head straight to Enid or Sardis. Crappie are just more robust and plentiful there.
Having said that I now say this. Considering the fact that this conversation actually occured, it leads me to believe that a conversation similar to this most likely will rear it's ugly head again. Therefore, I believe it would serve me best to cancel my membership. I see on your post that you are a moderator so you probably have the abilityto end my membership. I would really appreciate it if you would cancel that for me.
Hey IMAREB, you can legally possess 7 daily limits for transport so if they can catch um I guess they can take um home. At that point if they sell them in MO not much the MDWFP can do about it.
It is ILLEGAL to sell fish or wildlife in Missouri reguardless of what the rumors are. I have posted the link from the Missouri Deparment of Conservation on this site 4 years in a row now. YOU CANNOT SELL FISH OR WILDLIFE OF ANY MANNER IN MISSOURI unless you posess a commercial fishing license and even then, the fish CANNOT be transported across state lines and crappie cannot be legally sold anyway!!!! PERIOD! By the way, hearsay evidence is NOT "PURE FACT". I've looked for 47 years now and still cannot find one place in the entire state that I can purchase crappie fillets. Buffalo, yes, crappie, no!!! I wish I knew where all of these fish for sale is going. It would save me alot of money each year!!!! By the way, I'm the one who asked G3 to check into this thread because I am sick and tired of beating this same dead horse every spring!
Thank You Speck.
There's outlaw's in every state.I did have a man from Mo. tell me was getting $7 a lb for filet'd crappie,was loading my boat at North Graysport when this took place about 3yrs ago so some of it aint hearsay.