I'ver been using Cabelas slip bobbers for Shellcrackers. Does anyone have any ideas on wht they like better?
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I'ver been using Cabelas slip bobbers for Shellcrackers. Does anyone have any ideas on wht they like better?
I like Waggler or "Waggler Style " slip floats. I posted a picture of what I use under the thread double jig rig.
I use a thill. they have many types check them out at Lindy Fishing Lures – Home of Legendary Fishing Tackle
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Hey my friend. Yeah you have been quite the man for as long as I have known you on c.c here. Love your caption on your sig. I am with you that a "Waggler" or a "Waggler type" float with the line underwater is more sensative and much better in wind. Take care.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
Thanks, ship. I was very fortunate. I learned float fishing from a couple of transplanted Englishmen, and I'm still learning! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shipahoy41
The English are the best float fishermen in the world. They invented the waggler and are still the masters, although the rest of Europe has now copied them. America will catch up one day (hopefully.)
what is "waggler style"
Just Google - waggler style slip bobberQuote:
Originally Posted by vdog
After fishing on Reelfoot I am of the opinion that a quill style float is the most sensitive. I love to fish them. I am also a shallow water fisherman so the use of a slip bobber is more for convienence for me than a need. Bo
Float is attached at bottom only. Waggler floats have have all the buoyancy at the bottom of the float.Quote:
Originally Posted by vdog
Guys, please note that this thread is three years old.
Old thread but still possibly helpful; personally I find more quality and quantity fishing the bottom and fishing cover (roots under trees) for crackers in particular
thanks
I dont know if there is such a thing as best bobber....I use a float for shellcrackers yet "know" those who dont use any type of float,,,, and fish for them on the bottom and catch some "huge" ones.
I use a 1/32 oz jig head tipped with about a 1 inch piece of nightcrawler fished on the bottom. Seems that white or black are the best colors for the jig. Actually when I feel it hit the bottom I wind it up one full turn. Alot of them grab it on the initial fall.
I've caught them on the bottom and under a float. Bigger ones on the bottom.
The best bobber for crackers is...........no bobber at all. Crackers primarily are caught on the bottom so floats are just not needed in most cases. Find a good hard bottom or shell bed and you are in business.
I fish on the bottom -- with floats -- all the time. I catch a lot of fish that way. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
Me too, Disco! My go-to rig in early spring is a slip bobber fished without a bobber stop so the bait is always on the bottom regardless of depth.
doesnt mean you need a float though..........if your fishing on the bottom a tight line is alot better strike indicator than a float is. The rod tip dont lie......Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
I beg to differ.... :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
I think floats are great when catching suspended fish but why use one if you are on the bottom? I just dont understand it. I caught all of these on the bottom without a float.
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You get better bite detection and virtually zero gut-hooking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
If I remember correctly, you caught those during the spawn. When the fish are spawning, every method works! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
Thats the only time I fish for them.....go two or three times a year and fill the freezer.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
If you use a slip float with no stop, how does the fish pull the float down? Won't the fish just pull the line through? Thanks
The difference is that the fish can feel the resistance of the rod tip, whereas with a slip bobber lying on its side on the surface, the fish doesn't feel it at all as it takes line. I doubt many guys would outfish me with a tightline.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM sounds like we need a little tournament on one of your managed ponds with a cash wager. Invite the youngun down and pay for his trip if he out fishes you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOOK
This is simply not true in most cases. when I tightline for shellcrackers on hard bottoms or shell beds i have a 8-10" leader. The only part of the line that is tight is the line going to the swivel. The 8-10" of the leader is left slack with the hook and bait attached. The fish picks up the hook with bait the exact same way that a fish does with your float setup. The rod tip doesnt move until the hook is already in the mouth of the fish and is moving with it. It is the same as a float, you look at the float for an indication, i look at the rod tip or go by feel, and I dont have to fiddle with adjusting a cork to the exact depth. I AM NOT against floats at all, i use them all the time. Just not while bottom fishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tnpondmanager
i beg the differQuote:
Originally Posted by tnpondmanager
The float still moves. Sometimes it just bobs as the line goes through it; other times it goes under like a fixed float would.
I'd be more than happy to wager you on any public water of your choice, with the caveat that if it's water you're familiar with and I'm not, I get a day of practice. (That's assuming we're in separate boats and I have to find my own fish - if we're in the same boat, I can promise you, you're not going to outfish me for bluegill - very few people are).
I don't give out free trips on the waters I guide on, just because I've got a small fortune invested in those fish and the only people who fish those ponds and lakes no charge are either related to me or close friends. I might be persuaded to give you a 20% discount if you beat me, but then again, that's akin to offering you a discount if you capture a UFO while we're fishing, because that's about as likely as someone outfishing me for bluegill on my own water.
The gauntlet has been thrown down! :biggrinQuote:
Originally Posted by tnpondmanager
If this epic battle actually comes to fruition, I suggest it happen in the fall or winter. The spawn is too easy.
As much as I would love to come up to Tennessee to fish with you i will politely decline the invite. I qualified for the CrappieUSA classic this past year and didnt even drive to Tennessee for that, so a bream or shellcracker trip isnt going to do it. But I will say that I wish i had a dollar for everytime someone of the older generation criticized or critiqued my fishing technique and style, i would have a nice little chunk in my pocket. Then, we hit the weigh in line and the tune changes. I have documented exapmples of me whipping up on older fellas, I can share links if you wish...........i dont think you would be any different......just another fella to bite the dust..............Quote:
Originally Posted by tnpondmanager
dont get you panties in a wad about my bragging either......the UFO comment was pretty funny
I'm gonna jump in and give my .02 here. I know from experience that a slip float works extremely well, one aspect of it y'all have not covered is the retrieve if you do not get bit and need to reposition. With a slip float the hook or jig is picked up from the bottom when retrieved and is less prone to snagging. Using this method you can fish some very snaggy places.
Bragging that you can catch spawning bluegills is like bragging that you beat your dog at chess. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
I wasnt bragging about catching bluegills, i was bragging about beating up on old fellas.......read it again, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
I was referring to posts 22 and 24.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Young Gun
yeah but that wasnt really bragging, trust me i know how to brag, lol
I can remember when I was young and dumb. Though I have to admit, this is the first time I've been referred to as an "old fellah." I'm not quite on social security yet.
Word to the wise: just because you outfished some average joe who happens to be older than you, does not in any way, shape, or form mean you will outfish me. For crappie? Absolutely you would, because I rarely pursue them these days. I wouldn't begin to think I could outfish a dedicated crappie fisherman for crappie. You would stomp me.
Which is why, if I can say this without seeming contentious, it's a little on the overconfident side for you to assume you, who admittedly only pursue bluegill two or three times a year when they're easy pickings, can outfish someone who has pursued bluegill as his main quarry for longer than you've been alive, and fishes for them dozens of times a year, in all kinds of conditions.
By the way, bottom-fishing is not remotely the best method for bluegill when they're bedding. If we ever get to have that tournament, I'll let you in on the secret as you're paying me in the winner's circle.:)
back to the question...I use the smallest slip cork that will hold the bait up...use crickets for bream and worms for shellcrackers...when i use crickets and start gettin nibbles with the lower soft part of the bait sucked off and nothing left on the hook but the crickets head, chest and legs...i know it a shellcracker...then i switch to worms fished on the bottom also have slip cork on to...lays on its side when worms on the bottom...but i have caught more shellcrackers on a black beetle...the smallest one they make...letting it fall to the bottom then more or less dragging the beetle slow and steady back to the boat...also has worked on sauger and trout...