Slip Bobber Enigma

I'm calling on my brothers at crappie.com for some help

:confused: It seem as though that I'm in a pickle using a slip bobber.
To start with I'm using 6LB Suffix Siege Neon Tangerine line. I'm fishing a 1/16 or 1/8 oz jig. I tie on my bobber stop string and bead and put on a Thill bobber (the good one with the brass insert at the top).
Now here's the glitch. I throw out and my jig seems as though it will not fall and bring my bobber to the upright position. I found that sometimes the bottom of the bobber was hanging up on the loop knot I tied on the jig. So, I learned to tie a better loop and am able to shorten my loop and cut the tag end off very close to the knot without weakening the knot.
I know that I'm missing the bite on some of the fish that are hitting on the fall. I've tried using the cheap Wal-Mart bobbers and get the same result.

Any help on solving this predicament will be greatly appreciated.

Use a Thill waggler and forget the other floats. Any time you have to run the line through the body of the float, it causes resistance and the jig will not fall as well. With a waggler, the line does not run through the body so there is no resistance. I use nothing but wagglers for both fixed and slip floats. You couldn't pay me to use another float.

Make sure your using the right weight to bobber ratio and also put a swivel in the line about a food above the jig or jigs. I usually have my cork and all rigged and tie the jig on and after that I will cut the line where I want to put the swivel at and tie both ends, this will keep your cork from slipping all the way down to your jig. Hope this helps a little.

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I just looked at the Thill TG Waggler Float
This ultra-slender, all-balsa float stands 7 1/2" tall, requiring extra split shot for balancing.
I not keen on using split shot. If the crappie hit from under the jig and are coming up or hover you never know it when using shot on the line.
Do you use shot?

In my opinion you have to use split shot to get a slip bobber to work properly.

I have started using the Betts Mr. Crappie Twist On / Twist Off Cigar Slip-Floats, and really like them. They range in size from 1 1/2" to 3". I use the smaller floats when jig fishing. The line slips right through, every time, and I really like the fact that I can put them on and take them off without cutting the line. You can pick them up at BPS, Cabela's or Gander Mountain.

I have also found that the 3" floats, when rigged with a minnow and a 1/4 oz. weight, have just enough buoyancy to barely stay afloat, which means that they offer very little resistance to the bite. This is the setup I use when slow-trolling minnows under a float.

Oh, and I rig a bead above and below the float, so the bottom of the float doesn't get hung up on the knot.

I can honestly say I've never had that happen, although I use the rubber bobber stop not the thread ones (I found myself always having to tighten them).

I'd use a small split shot about 8 inch's above the jig and see if that takes care of your problem.

Fatman

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Originally Posted by Crappie_Pop

If the crappie hit from under the jig and are coming up or hover you never know it when using shot on the line.

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I'm not sure why you would say this. If a crappie bites your jig and rises in the water, the float will also rise. It has to rise, since part of the weight that was balancing it is no longer registering on the float. Wagglers are designed to show lift bites, and they do it better than any other float on the market.

Yes, I use split shot, and I don't miss any lift bites. Wagglers are the float for seeing lift bites. Accept no substitutes.

Besides, look at what you wrote before:

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Originally Posted by Crappie_Pop

I throw out and my jig seems as though it will not fall and bring my bobber to the upright position.

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This tells me you're not using enough weight. You either need:

a) a bigger jig or

b) some split shot above the jig.

Thanks guys
All good ideas. I've always been able to relay on my fellows brothers at Crappie.com for sound advise.

I also use a lot of Waggler floats. There are times I still use the slip float with the line through it. When I do use them, you can bet your bottom dollar that I have "Pretested" the different styles at home and know exactly how mich weight is needed to have it 2/3 under water when I cast it out. That means less water resistance and more bites.

For some that means a 1/32 nd jig and 1/64 th jig double rig.

For a little larger float that may mean a 1/16th jig and 1/64th jig combo.

Pre test in a 5 gallon pail and you will know what to do when you get to the water.

This is a great read on why you should use a waggler float. Here is the link.

Float Types

can someone please give me a link to waggler floats and what size to use with 1/16 jig. and how big would you go in order to fish a minner/split shot.

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Originally Posted by slickwater1

can someone please give me a link to waggler floats and what size to use with 1/16 jig. and how big would you go in order to fish a minner/split shot.

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This is the basic waggler I use for bigger baits:

Cabela's -- Thill™ TG Bodied Waggler Float

The 7" size should probably handle that size bait. To be conservative, you could get the 8".

Or, if you want to get a couple of each size, you can buy them here:

Cabela's -- Thill™ Gold Medal Floats T.G. Waggler

If you plan to fish it slip-style, I'd also get some of these float adapters:

Thill Float Swivel Adapter

The line runs through them much better. If you don't want to buy, they're easy to make. It's just a barrel swivel glued into a short piece of tubing. Bass Pro, Cabelas, and Lindy all sell the tubing.

Here is a much better photo of what I have been using.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...41/setup-1.jpg