Tried this a few times, I always melt the plastic weedguards when heating (I use an alcohol burner). I don't like the wire guards. How do you guys keep the guards from melting?
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Tried this a few times, I always melt the plastic weedguards when heating (I use an alcohol burner). I don't like the wire guards. How do you guys keep the guards from melting?
You should use a toaster oven and thermometer to heat your jigs for PP with weedguard. I'd start at 250*F and see how that works, you may be able to go all the way up to 350*. I'd do one at a time until I found the temp that works best for the paint without melting the weedguard.
Iv'e been doing this for 7years, and in my opinion you can not get a good powder paint job with weedguards in it because the paint has to be baked (cured) on the jig and in order to do this, the jig has to be baked at least at 300 degrees +, minimum. With that said, I've done a lot of testing on jigs baked with weedguards and jigs baked without weedguards and the paint just doesn't hold up when you bake it with the weedguards. When your done pouring and you want to paint them take your base hole pins and put them back in your jigs. Paint your jigs pull the base hole pins out, bake your jigs, and then glue in your weedguards in with Devcon 2 Ton or Loctite Super Glue Gel. JMO. Below are some pics of the jigs I made using this process.Quote:
Originally Posted by fished-out
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That's all real nice CM, and surely the way to go if you're pouring your own jigs... but FO may not be pouring his jigs and may just be buying them unpainted with the weedguards in place...
Your wife has been buying you jig paint for years, you just didn't realize it. Finger nail polish comes in every color you can think of and dries like baked on powder paint. Who uses paint and weedgaurds anyways...
He didn't state either way, so I thought I would tell him how I did it. Personally I wouldn't even buy jigs with weedguards in them for the reasons I mentioned. To each his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by GCD
The question was asked about Powder Painting Jigs with Weedguards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler64
It doesn't ask about who uses them. I know this is a crappie site, but I'm sure others fish for different species as well.
Thanks for the help guys; I do pour my own generally, but buy the ones with weed guards, as I don't use that many. Heating the jig in prep for painting is one issue, baking them for hardness a different issue. Let's start with the first one--how do you protect the weed guard from the flame of the burner when heating prior to dipping?
For the 2nd issue, I have baked jigs at 250 degrees for a longer time period in some cases--some of the paints (might have been the glitter coats) called for it as I recall, so I know the lower temp will still give me a hard coat, but is this temp low enough to keep the weed guard in tact? I've never actually gotten that far, because I can't get past step one!!
Nightprowler, I like the finish and colors I get with powder paints, especially the floro and glitter finishes. I suppose I could just use a vinyl dip paint if it came down to it, but prefer the powder if it can be done well.
Preheat your jigs in your toaster oven @250* before dipping FO. Use the toaster oven for your heat source and not a flame or heat gun. You can control your temp precisely this way.
I don't use any kind of flame or heat gun for painting my jigs, I preheat them in the toaster oven, dip, and return them to the oven to finishing flashing the paint. After the paint has flashed, remove them from the oven and let them cool. After they've cooled put them back in the oven to cure... like you said, 250* for about 30-40 minutes.
Be sure to use an oven thermometer in your oven, the heat setting on the cheap toaster ovens are never right.
fo
Try Teflon tubing or some use alum foil wrapped over the weed guard.
Check out tackleunderground. If you plan on doing more - it is easier to glue in the weed guards after you paint. -
Killer paint cadman - like the paint around the eyes
I'm with Cadman on this one. I glue the guard in with Loctite gel after I paint, bake & tie my jig. Hard to tie with the weedguard already installed!!! :eek:
I've read many posts on several boards and most of the folks cure the paint on the heads then glue the weed guards in. Several do the opposite and bake the jigs with weedguards in.
Do It sells some tubing that's supposed to allow you to bake the powder on with the weedguard in but I personnally haven't tried it.
Fatman
I have a friend that says that he uses brass tubing bought at a hardware store cut into proper lenghts, slides over the weed guard and then heats and dips for the first step. Haven't tried it yet my self but am planning on trying it soon. Can't say whether it works or not.
LedHed, thanks for the compliment
Like LedHed and some others have stated here, you can use tubing, aluminum foil, and special tubing (sold by Do-It and Barlow's) to cover weedguards before baking. I have not had good success with them. If they work for you and you are happy with the results that's all that matters. There are many ways to skin a cat. We all have different ways of doing things.
Got a question for you guys that do weed guards. Are you just gluing the weed guard to the outside of the paint? So no holes into the head right?
Don't think I would do that for mine as I would just rather loose it and make another or bend the hook getting it loose and then bend it back.
Skip
Skip when you pour the jig, there is a pin that goes in the mold so lead doesn't fill. When you take the jig out of the mold the pin is still in the jig. When you pull the pin out there is a hole in the jig where the pin was. This hole is where the weed guard goes in. I glue all the weed guards in after the jigs are baked. Skip would you have a problem if I started a whole new thread on this site just to show how all of this works, so other can understand this?Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
Another tutorial cman????
I know this is a crappie forum and I know many guys don't use jigs with weedguards. I am not here to try to convert anyone into making jigs with weedguards. With that said I am sure that there are some guys that do fish for other species, and may want to make other jigs to expand their knowledge. Some of you probably already know how this all works and some may not. So I would be willing to do a tutorial only with the approval of Skip, and any and all moderators including the site owner. I don't want to encroach on anyones territory.Quote:
Originally Posted by LedHed
Cadman,
I would like to see how you do the weed guards. I have some craw patterns for bass and I may want to use some in my crappie jigs also. Thanks in advance to Skipp and the mods for letting cadman share this technique.
i know alot who use weedguards on crappie jigs i even orders some myself but i asked the guy not to put the guards in so i could paint and tie what i wanted up then i glue them in