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i have a $29.00 vise from bass pro and i was thinking about investing in a new vise but i dont really know how i would benifit from buying a new vise what differance is there for a el'cheap'o bass pro vice and a high end vice?
can any one help me out here ?
Do you have a rotary vice now? To me that makes a big difference with how you can look at all sides of your tie. Also helps alot for wrapping materials - Chenille, hackle, herl, etc.
If I was to get a new vice, I would want it to hold the hook sizes I tie good and rotate.... thats about it. ;)
I have 2 vises. One is a 30 year old Thompson "A" vise and one is a Renzetti rotary vise. I use the Thompson more than I do the Renzetti. For what I do now which is mostly jigs the Thom works fine . When I tie the little stuff like size #22 hooks I do use the Renzetti. Those are flies.
i got an Anvil rotery from BPS...undre hundred...it does avery thing i need...i love mine
I started with a cheapo vise which worked ok.After a couple years I decided to invest in a Renzetti full rotary vise and fell in love with it.I liked it so much that I bought another even though the original worked fine other than dropping it off the desk a few times which gave it a slight wobble.I bought the first one 13 years ago and it's still working.I own three now and can't even imagine tying with anything else.I say get a full rotary vise,you'll be glad you did.
is there any brands yall could recommend and where can i find them?
I recently bought a Danvise for $72.00 from Orvis and I love it!
Like Atticafish said, I was mainly interested in the rotary feature
as I tie a lot of chenille, and hackle, plus like to look at all sides when I tie.
I don't tie flies so I don't think the 2-300 vises would be justified. Started out
on a 9.95 Thompson and tied a lot of jigs on that puppy, but the rotary feature makes that obsolete in my opinion. I also like the smooth cam action lock on the jig.
I can get you a griffin vice at a great deal. Check there website and if you see anything that looks good to you let me know and I will get you a price. I myself tie with a Odyssey Cam Vise . Several guys here also have griffin vises including Attica fish. I believe he is happy with it,,,,right Russ :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crappie josh
Griffin Fly Tying Vises
I bought a Griffin Patriot from laserdoc and I'm VERY satisfied with the vice & the service I received. The difference in tying jigs with a rotary vise is like summer & winter. I'm not the greatest tyer, but the rotary made a BIG difference with what my jigs look like when they're done!
Well it all depends on how high end you are talking about because there are things I can do on my Nor-Vise that can't be done on a regular rotary, at least not the same way. However a good rotary is the best middle ground and like laserdoc I have the Peak which I feel is the best vise for the money you can get. made like a tank and is great machi9ng work. I have also a Renzetti that was $210 as it is and it is no better than my Peak IMHO. You can check the Peak out on my web site if you want, or just PM me.
I also forgot to say the Danvise is the best true rotary under $100, but has a lot of plastic parts and I had one my first year tying and then went to the Renzetti, but would have gone Peak if I had knows about them then, because of the money difference and the quality of the Peak. Have never head a bad word about Peak on any fly tying board or from anyone that has a Peak. So now I have 3 different Vises (sold my Danvise) and for the money I don't think you can beat a Peak.
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Sooo, they make a vice that rotates ?....Very interesting......;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
All the ones I have rotate and one will even spin, but the one that will spin is really high end. I only tie on a true rotary and like to see all around what I am tying. All the ones I own are made very well and top notch Quality. Oh and I like all my jaws to be cam jaw type.Quote:
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The single most important thing to me was the hook holding fast. I have a rotary Regal Medallion. Open jaws with a cam and let her shut. Hook never moves. No knobs to adjust to lock hook in.
Vast improvement over having to kick wife to clomp down harder to hold the hook better. Besides her teeth were starting to groove and my fly tying was suffering. Considered divorce but lawyer convinced me a good quality vise was much cheaper. I hope my woman appreciates all the sacrifices I make for her.:D
That's funny, but you are right on with the cam jaw, I love that feature and paid extra for it on my Renzetti. I would have a vise that was not a cam jaw, but that is just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by hays47
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I did my homework when I got in the market for a vise a few months back and I will tell you MY OPINIONS on what I found. I have had my hands on all the vises I will refer to.
My ceiling price was $150, give or take, and found a lot. I had to have a rotary, and had to do both big and small. The Dan is a good deal for the money. If money is an issue you would do well with this. Everyone that used one and sold it said it worked as well as when new. The Atlas and Griffin I found to be close in price with the atlas getting my vote. Next we come to the Peak, which is very well built and very user freindly. Best in the price range IMHO. I have a Renzetti Traveler that I bought used and I'm in love with. It is an older model without the cam on the jaws and has a bobbin holder attached. They go just a bit over the price range but is a good investment and a good tool. I see them on Ebay for a price within the stated range.
Buying a good vise is smart money cuz if you don't like it you can always sell it and get the $ back. You would be happy with any of the above stated vises and use them, without trouble, for years to come. Check on ebay as deals are found all the time. The most important thing I can say is to be patient and try to handle what you want to buy. No expensive lessons. Good luck with your decision and keep us posted with the outcome. Tight lines.....
Well said Skeet!Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
I agree with all of that, but just don't know the Atlas at all as have never put my hands on one. Know there are more than one Renzetti Traveler too, there is the one just called Traveler and then the one I have which is the Salt Water Traveler with cam Jaw and I can tell you I paid $210 for that baby( now I see it is $229.95) and the Traveler is $189.95 with cam jaw. I see the place I looked don't even offer it without the cam jaw.
The other vise I use most is the Nor and it is $295.00 with standard jaw it comes with. Personally I have that plus the large jaw conversion ($95.00) and the fine point conversion (95.00) and have been thinking about adding the tube fly conversion one too, but have not yet. So at this point I have near $485.00 in mine not counting my "C" clamps which are the older one that cost more than the new ones and no I would trade my clamps for the new one, but they were like $45 and thinking maybe that was each???
I do like to make dubbed bodies and I don't know of a vise that can be used for dubbing the same way a Nor works and some other really cool things like that. Normally for a dubbed body you have to make a dubbing loop and twist it, the wrap it on the hook, but not with a Nor, just spin it and hold the dubbing to the thread which is hanging over the post and it take and wrap. This also works much better if you have an automatic bobbin which are costly. The Nor Auto is $35 plus how many spools you want and there is another one that is $100 just for the bobbin. I am stupid and have both, LOL!
However I do have the option of using any of this stuff to tie. Oh and I have a spare Nor, LOL! Never used and I have it on their board which acts as a pedestal, but really different. You don't have a bobbin holder on a Nor, but a completely separate post for hanging that thread on when doing dubbing.
Oh almost forgot I have my own Peak too and yes I tie on all of them at one time or another, but after I got my Fine Point Conversion the Nor is about all I use on a consistent bases. I do like the fact if I travel or even just want to tie while watching TV I have my Peak or Renzetti I can take in there easy.
One more thing is you could always go for the Marc Petitjean Swiss vise at something like $738.00. I don't have one, LOL! Of course everything they make is more costly, heck the bobbin rest is $66.95.
Hope I didn't go so far as to just confuse the issue, LOL!
Skip
lol :D I say tomato... you say tomahto..... :D Trust me, spelling was never a good subject for me - but I'm betting you already guessed as much. :)Quote:
I do own a Griffin, think it is the same model as LD's, and like it alot. Got a great deal too. ;)
I started with a Herters No9 (knockoff of a Model A) and then went to a THompson model A, and 4 years ago bought a DynaKing Kingfisher. Does everything I need it too and only $69 total when I bought it.
I see the big fancy vices but mine serve the purpose of tying not only jigs but flys, and gave me more money for materials. And I can turn the head to look at all angles of whatever I'm tying.
Fatman
Read the article contained in this post link. It should help to answer your questions.
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I mis stated the name of one of the vises I refered to earlier. I spoke about an atlas vise when it was in fact an Anvil brand, Atlas model. My bad. (gettin old?) Just brought it up in case you might be looking it up.
i have a Zephr EZ Rotary ,a Bass Pro Shops Crown Vise,TERRA ROTARY VISE,that i bought on e bay for under a hundreddollars
Vise and price is a personal thing and each should get what they feel good about. It is as simple as that. I know that if my Nor didn't do things for me that I can't do on my Renzetti or my Peak, then I would have it now most likely because of the cost, but it does thing you just can't do on a normal vise.Quote:
Originally Posted by dedawg1149
Everything else is just personal choice and as long as each of us is happy with what we tie on then that should be enough.
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I got mine and love it.No name on it,but it does rotate,has very strong jaws,has everything that has been mentioned on all the vises,and was under $100.00.Has a very heavy base,and also a C-clamp.High End?Maybe,lol.To me it is.We're talking about a guy that makes his own worm food here.
I have a dynaking voyager 2, it was about 265.00, and it is really nice. the only thing I don't like is the hook grooves they put in the jaws, I wish they would have just checkered the inside surface. but if I was tying on large hooks, then it would be perfect.
all i am saying if you look hard enough you can find the almost brands the vises that are just about the same as the one costing hundreds mores the same goes with metarials rod and reels etc,trust me if i wanted a 300.00 dollar vise i could buy it but if i found out i didnt like to tye i would fill alot worse about 300.00 dollars versus 30.00 dollars
I tie on a lil ole Made in India vise and it does what I need it to. I used to have a DanVise and it worked great. Rotary vises won't make you tie better jigs and flies, they'll just make you tie faster and make tying easier.
A lower end vise is good to start with but over time the jaws will have less holding
power. Higher end vises the jaws are made better and will hold your hooks for as long as you own it.