Turner Gill

I just watched his press conference and I have to say that I feel 100% better than I did when this news broke over the weekend. I was not a Harbaugh guy as I think he would have been gone after next season to Michigan or the NFL. But I was pulling for Skip Holtz or Tubberville.

But after listening to this I have no doubt that we will be able to recruit better players to KU. As I watched I thought about Gill and Mangino walking into my living room to try and get me to come to KU. No doubt that Gill is going to win most of those in my opinion. I really think Mangino's physcial presence started hurting KU. I was a big Mangino fan and did not think he should have been let go, but I think he was really good at upcoaching average players to be above average. I think Gill can get better athletes to KU. The question is can he coach them. His head coaching record is not spectacular although it is tough to judge it while only being at Buffalo.

But there is no doubt that the guy is first class. What do you all think....Especially you antiochba since you are such a Husker?

I am kind luke warm about the hire, give him a couple of years to see what he can do. The one thing that I like from the get go is the 2 coordenators he hired that will go a long way in getting the team up and going. I do believe that he will be able to get into alot more recruits homes than Mangino was able to get into.

I like what I see, time will tell. All he has to do is to have a team that can beat Kansas State and Missouri and he be in good standings with the alumna.

AUBURN interviewed Gill last year for the HC job. I'm sure glad Chizik was selected. I'm not saying that Gill won't be a good HC for KU. I just don't think he would have been a good fit for AUBURN. Either way, he is better than what you had. As long as he surrounds himself with good coaches, he will be fine. I agree with what you other posters have said......he will be a good recruiter for you. Good luck.

Bob,

Yesterday in the KC Star there was anarticle about Tommy Tuberville trying to insert himself into the KU search.

I think Auburn/Chizik put up a pretty good fight against Bama.

Pete

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Originally Posted by psilvers

Bob,

Yesterday in the KC Star there was anarticle about Tommy Tuberville trying to insert himself into the KU search.

I think Auburn/Chizik put up a pretty good fight against Bama.

Pete

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Rumor was that Tubbs was interviewed. I like TT as a coach but his recruiting sucked his last few years at AUBURN. I wish him much luck. He will make someone a very good head coach.

I dunno. That record at Buffalo is a concern. I know its not a great school to recruit to but for the most part he only had to compete with MAC teams. Good players will follow a good coach. Just looks like most of his sucess was years ago on the field as a player. Can he compete with coaches like Stoops, Brown, Leach in a couple years? Doubt it. What about Pinkel, Polini, or Snyder in the north? Sorta doubt that too. Not until his 3rd year anyway. I know the caliber of the man is excellent but I hope for a quick recovery. Good luck Coach Gill

I'm an Auburn fan and you guys did not want Tuberville. I think he's a good man and I liked a lot of the stuff he did at Auburn, but he got lazy after 2004. His agent is a dirtbag who is a pro at extorting money from universities at the end of the season. Somehow all of his clients names get in the mix for head coaching vacancies at the end of the season sort of like Houston Nutt and the Kansas job.

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Originally Posted by abarkley

I'm an Auburn fan and you guys did not want Tuberville. I think he's a good man and I liked a lot of the stuff he did at Auburn, but he got lazy after 2004. His agent is a dirtbag who is a pro at extorting money from universities at the end of the season. Somehow all of his clients names get in the mix for head coaching vacancies at the end of the season sort of like Houston Nutt and the Kansas job.

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Yeah, Sexton is a rat!! Chiz had to fire him as his agent before AUBURN would hire him. It was stipulated in the offer.

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Originally Posted by Chadku

I just watched his press conference and I have to say that I feel 100% better than I did when this news broke over the weekend. I was not a Harbaugh guy as I think he would have been gone after next season to Michigan or the NFL. But I was pulling for Skip Holtz or Tubberville.

But after listening to this I have no doubt that we will be able to recruit better players to KU. As I watched I thought about Gill and Mangino walking into my living room to try and get me to come to KU. No doubt that Gill is going to win most of those in my opinion. I really think Mangino's physcial presence started hurting KU. I was a big Mangino fan and did not think he should have been let go, but I think he was really good at upcoaching average players to be above average. I think Gill can get better athletes to KU. The question is can he coach them. His head coaching record is not spectacular although it is tough to judge it while only being at Buffalo.

But there is no doubt that the guy is first class. What do you all think....Especially you antiochba since you are such a Husker?

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I think Turner is a class act. Not that sure about his coaching ability. It sounds like he as assembled some former head coaches to fill the coordinator slots. I fear he will be a formidable recruiter in Texas. I wish him well every Saturday except for the one where KU plays his Alma mater

:) Gill will give it his best shot for you guys. Dr. Tom schooled this youngster well. Take a look at the Texas guys he recruited to play for him in Buffalo. He is a class act and has a good offensive mindset. It is very possible that he could bring a Big Twelve North championship to you. Appreciate him while you can. My prediction is that when Jim Tressle retires, we will be saying goodbye to Polini and hello Turner Gill. You never know in the coaching world but I wouldn't be shocked to see this happen in the future. If I were bettin, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tressle go in the next five years. That should be about as long as Rich Rodriqez will need to unseat him. For the record, I like Texas in the championship game over Alabama. I think Texas is a better team than their two close wins shows. I look for Texas to be able to lite up the Alabama secondary, Alabama doesn't have the defensive line that Oklahoma and Nebraska were able to pose to Texas. Alabama has a great defense that is predicated on speed. I think the Texas offense can match up with that speed. Hope I'm not wrong. Go Big Twelve!!!!!!!!

As a KSU grad, this hire doesn't scare me at all, his coordinators do though. Snyder and Bo-Peep will make Gill look like a bcs rookie. Congrats sweet lew, you just hired your very own Ron Prince:(

Speaking of sweet lew, how in the hell did he get a bye week for KU the week before KSU in 2010 and 2011????????? They also got a bye weeks before KSU in 2007 and 2008. Bye weeks before your in-state rival 4 out of 5 years?????? Only in the Big EFFING XII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron Prince ?!? That's a bold and daring statement. LMAO. Come on Sarge. Now way this hire is that bad. That isn't possible.

Jigger I am with you on Texas. I think they are better than they have played lately. And I can't stand Saban. Go Big 12!!

Gill ?? One Word .... Loser !!

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Originally Posted by KCBALLER

Gill ?? One Word .... Loser !!

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He has won a conference title....one more than Missou under Pinkel

Couple of thing about Gill that will be interesting to see.
1.He was given a great recomendation from Coach Osborn but was not in consideration for the NU job the same year he won the MAC title. Good enough for KU but not for NU, this is the main one that sticks out to me.
2. He starts every meeting and practice with prayer. This is not a bad thing by any means, but we will see how that goes. Religion in KS has divided many a groups.
3. Recruiting, he only wants high moral kids which we all do but in the past at Buffy he has not gotten the elite talent even in his own conference. I personally think you need some nasty boys on a team to be good.
4. Assistants have more experience than he does and was the 3rd coach offered the job, which I think give him a little advantage and chip on his shoulder.
5. I don't don't think he is even close to the next Ron Prince. Ron's big problem was he would not surround himself with other good coaches and that ended up being his biggest down fall. Gill has done just the opposite. Big plus on his end.

Only time will tell but should be interesting. Not a homerun of a hire but a solid single with the coaches he has brought in so far.

Baller comes back a swinging, huh....Nice one BA. Mizzou sucks..Go to the Big 10 and maybe you will be able to win something.

SD---Some good points there. In regards to Osborn I think he had no other choice but to hire Pelini....Everyone wanted him and I think Osborn had to do it.

The prayer thing I do not believe has anything to do with KS. We have only a small % of KS kids on our team. It will depend on the kids he brings in whether or not it is an issue. Since he is upfront about it I do not think it will be an issue.

With recrutiing I think you have a point you need some nasty kids in there to be good. But that does not mean they have to go out and beat people up, get DUI's etc. A good kid with high morals can get downright nasty in a game and put you on your butt. But they do not need all mister nice guys.

The assistants are a big key here I think. Got 2 top coordinators and today it sounds like he has hired one of the top recruiters in the country from Illinois. He was named a top 30 recruiter by sporting news and has put several players in teh NFL. The icing on the cake was that he is familiar with KU as he was on Mason's staff in the early 90's.

Ready for the season to begin so we can see what this program is going to be all about.

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Originally Posted by AntiochBA

He has won a conference title....one more than Missou under Pinkel

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Thats not saying much ,,, MU SUCKS !!

i'm a KU FAN .:D I JUST DONT SEE THAT HE IS A GOOD FIT, time will tell, i hope he turns out good for us

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Originally Posted by KCBALLER

Thats not saying much ,,, MU SUCKS !!

i'm a KU FAN .:D I JUST DONT SEE THAT HE IS A GOOD FIT, time will tell, i hope he turns out good for us

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I thought you were a MU guy...I thought we were gonna have some fun here.:D

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Originally Posted by Chadku

I thought you were a MU guy...I thought we were gonna have some fun here.:D

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Me too..

Yeah, I hope he can recruit quality players who will keep beating up the basketball team during football season...:p Having "good" kids isn't such a bad thing.;) I think Chad KU is right. He needs kids who won't make the news for the wrong reasons.

Speaking of basketball... It looks like both schools have reason to be pretty excited this season! KSU has plenty of room for growth and improvement, but I sure like what I've been seeing here in Manhattan! Go STATE!

You guy's on the KU wagon are going to be fine, he will win .500 or better with whats there now. The kid learned power football from a legend. They get a couple of run/pass qb's in there and some stout "D" your in the top of north division every year. As far as him coaching with Stoop's , Brown, & Leech? When in the head coaching spot "COACH" he and his staff will do fine. Mangino is still a darn good coach.....Stoops should hire him back IMHO.

i am with you lip