Kansas Ultra-lite(Kentucky-rig)

Pole is a med/heavy 7fter bait caster. Reel is a med. baitcaster with a flippin switch. Line is 50lb hi-vis Power Pro. The rig; 1oz sinker, 2, #1 light wire aberdeen hooks, 2, 3way swivels, 1 snap-swivel. Tie sinker to 1st 3 way swivel with 15 to 18in. line. Then add 15 to 18in line to next 3 way swivel. Then 15 to 18in line to a loop knot. Tie the snap swivel to main line. Now tie 20lb mono line to the last holes on the 3ways about 6in long. Tie the hooks to these leaders. Now lay this out on your driveway and reel out 20ft(measure this with a tape. Make marks on the line 10ft up from the sinker, 15ft & 20ft. Now off to the water. Find the pile and mark it with a bouy. Notice what the height of the pile. Bait-up with fresh, lively minners. I hook them thru the lower eye sockets. This should go thru REAL easy. If not, your wrong. Now lower the rig into the water where it will just clear the top of the pile(look at the marks on the line). After doing that, then fish around the piles with the sinker just off the bottom. Now ,,,go into the pile straight down & lift up when ya hit it & go back down. Ifin ya get snagged, slowly lower & lift till it frees it's self. You'll feel everything as the sinker has preloaded the rod. Wish I had a picture and as soon as LBM sees this, he'll surely post one. If you tie them all the same you never need to remark the main line. <*)}}}><

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Originally Posted by Crappie Chatt

Pole is a med/heavy 7fter bait caster. Reel is a med. baitcaster with a flippin switch. Line is 50lb hi-vis Power Pro. The rig; 1oz sinker ... Now tie 20lb mono line to the last holes ...

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This is ultra lite? :confused:

Are you fishing for crappie or tuna? ;)

I FEAR NO BRUSH-PILE!!!!:D:eek::D <*)}}}><

Chatt knows also when he probes the piles with this rig you can surgically remove those slabs most fisherman never reach......good summer/fall tactic give e'm @@$#$^* Chatt!!!!

If not surgically, I JUST WENCH-EM OUT:D:D:D <*)}}}><

Screw the net, get the tow truck!

Ya should see the surprised look on them when they surface:D. They been gittin away for a while:eek::eek::eek::eek: <*)}}}><

Thanks for the novel er I mean the good description, I'm a gonna have to read this a few times and maybe draw it out.

I have never used a Kentucky rig and not sure how it really looks.

This sounds similar to how I use a weld rod. I use a medium heavy bait caster with braid not sure of the test of the braid. I use 12 to 18 inches (the length varies) of weld rod and at times will have aberdeen hooks on both end of the weld rod and lower it straight into the brush. Once hooked the fish won't wrap because of the length of weld rod. The weld rod probably won't be lost on hang ups if there is any up down free play action. It will tend to free its self with the lifting and falling action. If it hangs up with no free play is where I have lost the rigs in the past.
I usually like to use the rig with the tandem minnows being dropped into the brush thinking I'm offering them a second shot, going up or down, if they have let the bottom minnow go down past them with out taking it. Maybe they will grab the other minnow as it goes by them. Invariably the other minnow will be knocked off the rig when pulling the fish out of the water with this rig.
With this rig I also FEAR NO BRUSH-PILE!!!!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...138_3881-1.jpg

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This is not a Kentucky rig but what I use in a similar situation you describe.

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Originally Posted by Crappie Chatt

Ya should see the surprised look on them when they surface:D. They been gittin away for a while:eek::eek::eek::eek: <*)}}}><

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Good one!:D That gave me a good chuckle.

X2 for Slabby Joe's comment. I need a diagram or something. I definitely got lost in the translation also.

LBM, your rig looks pretty slick. So you just hammer the ends of a welding rod flat, drill holes in the ends, and round the edges with a grinder? Looks like the rest is just split rings and swivels. That seems doable. :)

Either rigs should be good for relocating brush piles.

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Originally Posted by Ronald Meeder

Either rigs should be good for relocating brush piles.

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lol :D

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Originally Posted by squirrels

So you just hammer the ends of a welding rod flat, drill holes in the ends, and round the edges with a grinder? Looks like the rest is just split rings and swivels. That seems doable. :)

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Exactly. The ends can't be hammered out with one or two blows or they will split. Just tap tap with many lesser taps and it will flatten out OK.

Dang it Ron you shouldn't be divulging such top secret high value techniques for brush relocation. :D:D :) :) ;)

When the Chattester gets around to showing his diagrams he probably won't be showing them with the grappling hook components he uses with his rigging. :eek: :D ;)

LBM; Thanks I had forgot about welding rod riggin, an old timer turned me onto it years ago....just slipped the mind.

since it seems to be give up your rig secret week here's one of mine....

Use the same type of equip as LBM except use about 3 feet of weld rod and on the bottom tie a jig on with only 4 inches of line between the rod and the jig. Use this rig in 5 foot of water or less on the nastiest brush you can find. It really shines on the stuff that sticks out of the water that you have to use long rods to reach. Remember to use split ring on the weld rod as you drill cuts may not be smooth.

Al

Here is the redneck fail safe deep brush rig. Take a 3 ounce sinker and tie to the end of your line...any test will do. Make a slip knot loop a few inches above the sinker. Put an M-80 firecracker in the loop and snug up. Light the M-80 and quickly lower into the brush pile. As the slabs float to the surface, scoop up with a net. Repeat this process and use on brush piles until you get your limit.

Hey ksfish99 the redneck comes through again, who says they have backward ways!!

If you don't have a redneck fishing pole, you can always just duct tape your M-80 to a rock and toss it overboard when you get to the brush pile. ;)

I like Haugboss' idea of giving up our favorite Summer rigs.:D

What's been working for me is a basic tandem jig rig around brush piles. I've been using a 1/16 oz ball head jig on top and a 1/8 oz roadrunner on the bottom. 1 1/2" tubes or 2" grubs on both jigs. I space them out about 14". For the top jig, I tie a nail knot in the line to give me about a 4" long loop and then use a palomar knot to tie on the jig. The bottom jig is just a standard palomar. I have been using 20# braid for the whole rig.

I like this setup because you don't need any swivels, leaders, etc,. All you need is jigs and line. If I get snagged up, I can usually straighten the hooks at least 6 or 8 times before the line gets worn out enough to break. Whenever I do manage to break off, it doesn't take long to retie. For me, simple = good. Plus, no minnows to keep alive. I can slow-drift this rig around the pile, or set up on top and lift-drop.

Here is another diagram requested by Crappie Chatt "Thank Ship!!! Will you post this on the Kansas board under the sticky 'Kansas ultralite?' <*)}}}><"

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...TandemRigs.jpg

Thanks Ship!!! The one I use is the middle picture. As you can see I have :D 'tweeked' :D the measurements a little. <*)}}}><

Great looking rig will have to try it !!

I want to thank the Royals for giving me enough time to make one of these. I got just the spot to try it on. Even if I dont catch ant fish maybe I can get about a gazillion jigs back. Thanks for posting the origional guys. ps those little holes close to the ends were real fun.

And we call this crappie fishing. And to think I have been fishing wrong all these years. Next we need to get out the snaging rods. big bait big fish.
:D:D:D

I have fished a method similar to the welding rod thing, only I use wire coat hangers cut to various lenghts. Depending on how much weight I want.
This also makes a good drift rig...

These rigs are good for moving brush piles.

What size hook do you normally use for hookin these "tunas" thatchu be a catchin?????????

What I don't understand about this rig is this, what is the advantage of not having the wire spreaders on the rig? The Kentucky rig looks just like the standard crappie two minner rig without the wire spreaders unless I'm missing something??

G3 - What you are missing is that the rig is made with 40 to 65 pound test line and the droppers are made with 10-15 # test. You can well rope the fish in and if you get hung the mono dropper line pops and you get your rig back. You now can fear no brushpile.

It looks like you are going cat fishing. I thought you only fished for crappie.
now the word is out.

These rigs makes sense for standing timber in deep water. My favorite honey hole is a conservation lake with old oak trees still standing in 20-30 fow. You can catch crappie out of them, but it'll cost you tons of hooks/jigs and time tying on new stuff. Either rig on heavy line ought to make the harvest less of a hassle. Plus it'll sure make bringing up those cat that always take minnows much easier. In thick cover on med or lite tackle they are usually getting you wrapped and getting off way before you can get them clear of the snags.

Adam and I did a quick video that shows Adam fishing 2 kentucky rigs over a brush pile. Turned out good.

Adam and Nick Spider Rigging for Crappie on Melvern Res. KS - YouTube

Why did you record the slow bite? :)

So is the K-Rig basically the same thing as the crappie rigs you can buy at Bass Pro or the Eagle Claw rigs at most bait shops? The rigs I am referring to are a main line of about 2-3 feet with two wire "t's" tied in them with a snap swivel at one end and a barrel swivel at the other end. The snelled hooks are attached to each of the "t's" so you can catch two at a time.