Paint question

I was wondering if there was a difference between powder coat paint and the powder paints like Pro Tech?

Not sure there is I use pro tech and I also use powder they use for doing car parts and they both work the same.

JJ

That's what I was wondering, thank you. Do you happen to know the temp at which the pro tech stuff is rated up to? I found some powder paint that was rated up to 800* but I am not sure what that completely means and I will have to take some time on google I think. I have never used either type of paint so it's new to me but I am considering starting to powder paint my jigs and/or start airbrushing jigs and other lures. I have found clear cranks that I am thinking about playing around with.

not sure on what temp it is rated for but if you are gonna do powder print out the chart that skip has on the main page for cure times and temps it helps. I also thought about doing the clear cranks with a air brush but decided it was cheap enough to buy the ones allready painted and add my own treble hooks total cost was like 2.20 a piece.
I do want to start painting my own spoons and The air brush would be great for that. Post some pics of your crank baits when you get some done I would like to see them.

JJ

another member here Cadman has like 20 different places or so he gets it from it usually works the same. Look up threads by him and you'll get some really good tips on powder painting.

Fatman

Thanks guys I am looking into which direction I want to go. If I decide to go with an airbrush I will likely be starting up in Sept. when I have some extra cash to invest into the setup. I think to get a good selection of paint is going be as much as the airbrush setup itself.

I will look up Cadman's posts and see what I can come up with Fatman, thank you for the info.

Jubs

“I was wondering if there was a difference between powder coat paint and the powder paints like Pro Tec?”

There are two main types of powder paint used by hobbyists for a surface finish;
Thermoplastic powders that will re-melt when heated
Thermosetting powders that will not re-melt upon reheating
Powder paint finishes include and not limited to:
Epoxy
Polyester
Epoxy Poly
Low Bake Polyester
Textures
Metallics
Lacquers

Most auto and hobbyists paints fall into these two categories with thermoplastics being more popular. The powder paint that you found that is rated for 880 F is probably too hard to work with. Most cure temps is around 300 to 320 F.

The Pro tech chart will get you into the ball park. But there are lot variables that the chart doesn’t account for. Characteristics of your curing chamber, accuracy of your temperature sensor, type of control…….. You will have to tweak your curing time to your specs.

Some big advantages, for jig painting, of PP over spraying; no VOCs, minimal clean up, fast cure, very tough finish (if cured properly).

PM cadman – he had some samples that he was giving out.

I like to use whatever will get the job done. Think that powder painting is the easiest

Thanks LedHed that answers a lot of what I wasn't completely sure of.

I am also an "artist" and would like to play around with an airbrush for that purpose and cranks as well but likely won't bother with jigs.

then you answered your question. airbrush it is if you aint gonna do jigs you have no use for powder since you cant heat up plastic cranks to powder them:)

JJ

Indeed, I picked up some Pro Tech this afternoon tried it on a few jigs. So far I like how easy it is to use I just need to get down how to get a second layer on there without getting too thick of a coating.

just remember, if ya get the jighead a hair too hot that'll get too much powder on there.

To all the guys in this forum first of all LedHed is correct with his post above. You cannot use thermosetting powders. Their re-melt temps are too high for small lead jigs, and you will melt the lead before you re-heat the paint. That leaves all the other powder paint companies and the powder like polyester etc. which Ledhed mentioned above. I have used most of the powder like Polyester, TGIC, epoxy etc. and I have found that they can all be applied over each other, are easily blended. If you bake powder paint, the finish is very durable. Also if you use different brands of powder like I do to blend colors you are going to ask what temp should I use since every color has a different temp setting. I personally think this temp range is way overrated. If you were powder painting items with strict specifications for the military than you have a valid point. These are fishing jigs, and no matter what you paint them with, you will probably lose them first before you have paint problems. With that said when I paint all my jigs I use 325° for 15-20 minutes. This is not cast in stone, like LedHed mentioned, this is a ball park number. If you feel you get good adhesion of paint at 300° for 30 minutes, whatever works for you. The more important thing to do would be to get a thermocouple and put it in your toaster oven and check what internal temp your toaster is heating at. I will bet you will find that the Pro-Tec heat temps listed here somewhere will be close…..Finally don’t dismiss the airbrush. There are blends and color combinations you can get with an airbrush, that you cannot achieve with powder paint. Let’s face it, if you paint bigger jigs like I do, you cannot put gill rakers or faded eyes with powder paint. I can do a 5- 6 color process not including glitters and clearcoat, and it can become very complicated. I know LedHed does as well (maybe others here too) and he can tell you it is not easy, but it is achievable. So this is where the air brush comes in. You must put a base coat over a raw jig to use air bush paint. Lots of guys use textured powder paint as a base, airbrush over the powder paint with Createx air brush paint and then clearcoat with epoxy. I’m going to stop this here as it gets too involved. One final comment Ledhed mentioned that I have powder paint I’m giving away. Yes I am in only (4) colors, it is textured. Powder paint is free shipping is not…………..PM me for more info……………I hope this helps you guys, and if you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer them for you.

Thanks for the answers Cadman. I might some day be doing jigs big enough to use the airbrush on but lately I haven't been getting any bigger than 1/32. I will definitely consider it later on as I am thinking about making some saltwater jigs eventually for halibut and other bottom fish.

Thank you everyone for answering my questions and then some.