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Well here they are my first shot at putting marabou on some 1/100th jig heads with #12 hooks a bit long I know but and comments would be welcomed good or bad.
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Doc
They Look good. Don't know if the length is good or bad, that's gonna be up to the fish
Fatman
Hey Doc,,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatman
Like FM said,,the fish will let ya know!!!
Good looking jigs.
mikeb
Ok made adjustments on these shortened the marabou is this still considered to long for gills
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Nice ties,the second batch looks about right for the length. Those grizzly marabou feathers look familiar.:)
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Originally Posted by JUNGLEJIMJIGS
They should they are the JJJ special selection of marabou thanks they are working out great just getting the right length the first time around, perhaps the blue ones will be the ones that go on perfect the first time.
Again thanks for the help and remember if there is anything I can do for you just ask...:D:D:D
Doc
Both sets look good!!!!!!! I also like that marabou, I was gonna order some from Flat but I went with regular flourescent first.
Fatman
what you see here is a special blend from JJJ I was looking for some small marabou and he had some is a small assortment of colors. Will be working on the rest of the jigs later this week now that i have this marabou length some what figured out. want to finish these then is is off to start working on the swap 9 jigs allot of jigs to tie this time for the swapQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatman
I use that marabou on some of my jigs too and it's nice looking but kind of high price when compared to regular colors.
One thing I would suggest is to tear off the barbules off the stem to tie them. You will get a much better action not having the stem in the tail unless it is a very thin stem. I find and use maybe just a few in a bag of marabou that I don't tear the feathers off the stem to tie.
Also make sure next time to trim before they are tied so you trim from the tied end and not the end that is going to give you the action you want.
Other than that they look good.
Skip
Skip
you lost me there Skip not sure what you mean by tear off the barbules off the stem to tie them. Marabou is kind of new to me as far as tying with it so you sort of went over my head there.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
I think these are the ones he is talking about.... the tail is flat on the end, almost looks like they were cut at the tail end after the jig was finished. I believe he is talking about pulling a small bunch of the feathers off of the vein that runs up the middle of the whole feather. When you do this you will get more random points at the tail end and better action. If they need to be cut shorter, cut the end that was pulled off that center vein. Hope I'm not putting words in his mouth....Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Crappie
I do like them and stick with pretty short tails for gills.
Yea i did trim them but will be fixing them up again tomorrow and I think I got what you are talking about pulling the feathers will give a try as well may work out better on these smaller jigsQuote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
Yes take the feather part off the stem and make a stack of them and then crag them so you can cut that end off and when you tie it like that the individual feather pieces are free to move.
You should not see the stem in the tails. Now I could be wrong and seeing something that is other than the stem, but that first pic in the middle top you see a stem like you just took the whole feather and tied in on the hook.
If you look at my Sig picture, you will see 3 different batches I tied in. The first one tied on was the Chart and then the Black and then the Chart again and there are no stems there. I have and still do a very few times leave the stem in, but it has to be so thin that it adds almost now stiffness to the tail. So 99% of the time I have no stems in my marabou tails.
Here is another picture of some marabou tail jigs and look very close and you don't see any stem there. You know hackle the stem stays in or the tail would be very short, too short. Well on marabou the feather most of the time is very wide so when you strip off the feathers and use just them it has more action and looks better too.
Skip
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Thanks I did not know that about the marabou I have been putting the whole feather in all the jigs that I use it on. In fact most of the video's online show them using the whole feather as well but just the end with the real small vein in it. I often wondered what they did with all the marabou that was left on the thicker end of the vein now I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
Guess you are seeing how new I am at this only been tying for a few months now and even though I can see my ties getting better I dont think I have even moved up that rating meter much above beginner, but as they say you learn as you live and I just learned something here.
This is just another feather in the old hat as to why I really like this site, the experience, knowledge, friendship and willingness to teach and share with others is just endless in here.
Thanks again for teaching this old dog something new
They all look good. Never tied any 1/100's but plenty 1/80's. Caught plenty bluegill and crappie on them under a cork. Rabbit hair also works great on the real small jigs.
Give you one more tip I have learned, probably took me too long (and much cussing) to figure this one, and betting most here did this from the start.
Start with the feather pieces near the thicker end of the vein. Pull off the stuff thats just fuzzy junk and pitch it. Work your way to the top thinner part. Starting at the top and working to the thicker end is hard to do, and will make ya mad!!! :mad: I gotta thick head so probably no one else here ever tried from the top down! lol
The jigs look real good
I' d like to find someone that will sell me a gallon size bag of the grizzly marabou and a price as well.Then I can grab a handfull and do some serious dyeing with it. I love the grizzly marabou,IT'S KILLER!!!!!!!!!
Ditto and yes that is the place to start. Most have been tying longer than I have too, but I studied very hard on line everything I could find. I actually started in early 2006 so keep trying and reading and looking at fly tying sties for additional tips and patterns you like. Just adjust them for a jig.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
Your doing just fine though!
Skip
So far that is the problem and only seen it in packs of 20 feathers or so. I guess it's hard for them to do that and a lot slower than being able to take pounds and pounds and fie them all at once. I am pretty sure it can't be done on an easy mass way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUNGLEJIMJIGS
Skip
Skip
Tell me are these getting any better or are they still considered to long by most
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See how much flair you got out of the marabou? Looks good to me. If just bream you are after then length can be a hard to get down thing. However I have people tell me I should make my tails shorter for crappie, but man a crappie has one big mouth and have never had trouble with them short striking. Know a guide that ties lots of craft fur and uses the entire length and catchses lot of crappie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Crappie
So for me length is one of the things you should jut try and see how it works or if they all miss the hook you then know for sure it's too long, but I would let them tell me that before I tied up a bunch of really short tails. Just my opinion here though and bream do have that pick pick thing that makes for some short striking, but I personally think if they eat it then it will not matter.
If the little perch miss it what is the difference anyway?
My last word on crappie and tail length, I like a longer tail because you get more action out of that.
Skip
They look good Doc. gonna try Me some in blood with a orange head and black body I love the stuff price ain't bad.