When the fish are deeper I would say 20+ feet, I usually use a 12 foot rod and just swing it to them, but when the fish are shallower than 15 feet, I have a hard time getting my bait down to them without scaring them after I catch 1-2 of them. Is there a better way to approach shallower fish to keep from scaring them after you catch a few and still see mother loads of fish still there, that will not bite.+Cross+

