Chenille Size Questions ( Mostly Just an FYI For New Tyers!)

Someone ask about what size chenille to use and that person was asking about size 0 Vs #2 (also which is bigger) and here is how I answered that question. It's not as easy as it may seem at first look!

2 is bigger! There is a lot more to chenille than size also. Size 0 is more for flitting guys or maybe some very tiny jigs. From 1/48 to 1/4 can be tied using #2, but also so many other factors enter into how well a chenille will look on a 1/16 Oz jig or a 1/8 Oz jig! Size #2 will need to be double wrapped on the 1/8. Also once you add in Crystal as in like New Age type, it will make it smaller when tied as it's denseness is different when the Crystal is added in. So most of mine if it's a New Age style will be a #3 and maybe even a #4 size. It all depends on what you want and need. One more thing to throw a cloud into it, lets say you want some with Crystal in it, but maybe you don't need it as an equal, so make it 2 parts regular chenille and one part Crystal, then it will be a lot more dense and still have the Crystal in it.

Oh and then lets just look at Crystal, if you are tying regular chenille on say a 1/32 Oz jig, any regular chenille (meaning Rayon or Nylon) once you get larger than #3 it's too much, but with just Crystal I often use #10 on a 1/32 Oz jig! Crystal changes everything as what is possible and what is not!

So size is not everything in tying and many ways to look at materials!

Skip

Thanks for the info skip

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Great information & explanation, as usual Skip! I, for one, am one of those who
as a beginner has been somewhat confused by some of the terminology and methods
used to describe measurements or thicknesses of material. Talking to you has done
wonders to clarify my problems!! Keep up the great work & Thanx for posting!!!

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Originally Posted by DaveB40

Great information & explanation, as usual Skip! I, for one, am one of those who
as a beginner has been somewhat confused by some of the terminology and methods
used to describe measurements or thicknesses of material. Talking to you has done
wonders to clarify my problems!! Keep up the great work & Thanx for posting!!!

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Your welcome and if something is troubling to you just shoot me a PM or post the question here and I will try to answer anything I can.

Many guys have issues as it is a whole different language and even some good jig tyers don't know the book when it gets to fly tying side. Just take the word Hackle, well when I first started it was just maddening and the more I learned the more I found it's just a matter of understanding this language that makes it so much easier to know if you really want something you see or not! I mean Hackle is not just every feather, it's also all kind of materials even synthetics as long as it's hooked to some cotton and has things that will stick out after it's tied. Like Pseudo Hackle or Hareline's Krystal Hackle.

There is a huge difference in dry fly Hackle and Neck Hackle, but not are Hackle as is soft Hackle which can come from a hen cape or from some places on the Rooster, it's just wide and softer barbules on the stem!

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