Maybe, having that natural looking eye on those jigs makes the fish want to eat the whole thing? Where as Jigs with an unnatural head cause the fish to just key in on the plastic part only.
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Maybe, having that natural looking eye on those jigs makes the fish want to eat the whole thing? Where as Jigs with an unnatural head cause the fish to just key in on the plastic part only.
Kirby hooks have been around a long time. I have some bronze big eye style (for spoons) and have some tin plated (saltwater) jig hooks - all are "old school" Mustad's - made in Norway. I think they were geared more toward saltwater fishing. Mustad even made some for fly tying.
I use a lot of jigs with eyes - my gut hooks are rare. I think it's because the sickle hooks I use function more like a circle hook. Circle hook gut hooks are extremely rare. Downside is; if you aren't familiar with fishing circle hooks you will lose fish. The tendency is to set the hook and that only pulls the lure out of the fishes mouth. You can still set the hook with the sickle, but you don't have to. Makes the jigs very kid friendly too.
Well, I always hear people say the fish really wanted or liked a certain lure because they swallowed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LedHed
I order a 4 pack from Amazon to try out for $4.91 + free shipping... how much are they direct from there website + shipping ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillfishn
Randy - I have been studying your videos and I wonder if the deep hooking has something to do with your twitching technique. Maybe the action of the jig is so irresistible that they inhale that sucker deep.
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When I order I order large orders.....usually about 25 packs at a time. My last order was for 60 packs which with shipping figures out to 97 cents per jig head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Techno2000
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Ok, thanks, these are tungsten... right? How long did it take to get them ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alphahawk
No no....these ain't tungsten. Most tungsten jigs I have ever bought were at or a little over 2 dollars each. Takes about 4 business days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Techno2000
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It could be but I've never had this problem until now. Of course my hook up rate is better than it has ever been. Yesterday I had one pullout.....I can live with that...LOL. My crappie hook up rate is off the charts also. But what really impressed me is the hook penetration I am getting on largemouth...smallmouth....KY bass. I have not set the hook on fish in years.....this has really been my method since I started using JDM rods.....6 years back. These hooks are penetrating the bony part of their mouth. Yesterday I had several deep hooked fish but nothing severe. My son is going with me tomorrow and I am pretty sure his jig heads came in and he will be using the same as me. Going to be interesting to see if he is doing the same....of course that is assuming we find some fish. The shellcracker may be done and the bluegill and redbreast were nowhere to be found yesterday after the cold front. My nephew will be fishing Little Red River this weekend using the JDM jig heads with the Trout Magnet. The trout I have caught this spring...and it has been a lot....I did not have this issue. But my hookup rate for trout went way up. Be interesting to hear about his hookup rate when he gets back.Quote:
Originally Posted by D10
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I'm kinda perplexed , everybody says the 1/64 oz jig head is best, because of the slow fall rate. But the one you use is 1.5 grams which close to 1/16 oz. yet you are doing very well. :donoQuote:
Originally Posted by Alphahawk
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Originally Posted by Techno2000
Ok....I'll give you my take. For years I used 1/64 ounce shad dart jig heads.....the majority being from Trout Magnet. Over the years I kept looking for a better jig head.....better to me means much sharper. I have lost count of the number of 1/64 ounce shad dart jig heads I have tried from a lot of sources. If I needed more weight I would many times attach a single size B split shot about 18 inches above the jig head. I also was fishing 1/32 and some larger jig heads going as high as 3/32 with the Trout Magnet. When I started buying 1/2 gram JDM jig heads I took a long look at all my 1/64 ounce jig heads. I found out that all of them weighed closer to the 1/40 mark than 1/64. That is the number I remember anyway when I did it but the point is a 1/64 ounce jig head weighs quite a bit more than stated weight. Doing research found out this is common in the industry for micro jig heads. But meanwhile I had ordered 100 1/2 gram JDM jig heads and I noticed how small they were compared to the 1/64 heads I had been using. Plus casting distance with a 1/2 gram jig head ain't much. So now my preferred weight jig head....with no wind...is 1 gram...which translates to 1/30 ounce....which is not that far from what I had been fishing with for years. Yesterday I started out with a 1 gram jig head....but the wind was a bit stiff and I went up to 1.5 gram. There is no doubt in my mind that fish love that slow fall rate a tiny jig gives. But you have to be able to get some casting distance. It has just been an education for me and jig head weights. Now my sweet spot jig for lake fishing is the 1 gram.....if the water is deep.....meaning over 10 feet...I'll move up to the 1.5 gram and to the 2 gram to get it down to say 20 feet. Of course one can do that with US market jig heads also. Tomorrow is supposed to be calm and flat conditions....if so my son and I will start out with a 1 gram jig head in 6 feet of water. Of course if the wind gets up I will move up in weight.
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It seems to me a slow fall rate would come into play more with hopping a jig on the bottom than with a straight cast and retrieve method.
I need to get the video done of how I fish....nothing special....but not many twitch. My rod tip is constantly quivering. My jig rarely touches the bottom. But I think your assumption is correct about fall rate. But all of these shellcracker are hitting my jig on a reaction strike. The way I fish...and the amount of fishing I do has ruined my hands. Had both carpal tunnel surgeries years back.....and about 5 years back developed De Quervain's tendonitis in both thumbs. Had all the steroid injections that they will give me...and now they want to do surgery on both thumbs. So I guess too much fishing can be bad for you....LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Techno2000
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Right, lol,well I order the 1.5g 8# just hope can get them in business days like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alphahawk
Great post !
I don't pay much for my ballhead jigs from ebay and rarely gut hook fish for the same reasons you posted as well as making sure the hook size matches the quality of fish biting my lures. Bigger crappie need a bigger hook/lure than smaller, fish otherwise gut hooking becomes more prevalent. But your retrieve like mine prevents the hook from getting stuck too deep and I believe that as the lure slides towards the lips after being sucked deep, the fish's mouth clamps down allowing strike detection followed by a slow rod sweep hook set in the lip. JMO
Again - nice insights.
This Plat order has taken 4 business days just to get to NY, where it has sat since Thursday. Previous order took 2 weeks, so I think 4 days is optimistic. Still worth the wait, but IMO a week and a half is more realistic shipping estimate.
Edit: this order was shipped Japan Post (JP). My last order from Digitaka (another Daiwa Luvias reel, wonderful reels - they blow Shimano out of the water in every way) was shipped EMS and took 5 business days.
Update: jigs are in Atl, so I should get delivery Monday: So that's exactly a week - not too bad at all! :ThumbsUp