Skip: I think that bottom one should hammer 'em on the beds. There's a local pattern here in SW OKlahoma called the chrome dome that absolutely catches bluegills year round, but especially in the Summer. It's a very simple pattern, and may be in a Warm Water pattern book, but I doubt it. It's a silver bead head, silver tinsil chenille body, and red saddle hackle bards for the tail. On about a #8 hook. Called the Chrome Dome. I would post a pic but don't have the ability.
Do you tie much with rubber legs?
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