caught em in open water, 4ft deep, fishing with grass shrimp. No weight, just a weighted cork, and 3 feet of line out. the breeze would keep the bait drifting and they would nail it. the only problem fishing like this is that you have alot of fish swallow the hook because they can take the bait and you dont know until the cork goes all the way under, which takes longer because there is no weight by the cork.

