Motor Guide Xi5

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Originally Posted by cajun fryer

so you can control it from the hds unit also?

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If you have a NMEA 2000 network, you can control the Xi5 from the HDS Gen 2 units.

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Originally Posted by Okie Bob

What???? Are you kidding me?????? Why buy that 'gateway kit' when all it appears to be is a standard NEMA connection? I already have my Point 1 gps antenna connected thru the NEMA 2000 bus. I'm thinking all I need is another tee????
Pretty sure I bought the NEMA 2000 starter kit from Shut-up-and-Fish for around $50 or close to that.
Anyone know the answer for sure????

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If you have a NMEA 2000 kit powered and installed, then you should be able to add another T and a cable to connect to the Xi5 trolling motor.

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Originally Posted by Okie Bob

So Reaper, what you are telling me is that I need to spend $1500 for a tm and then another $239 to be able to use it with my HDS's??????? Remember I already have a NEMA 2000 network connected to my two HDS 9 Touches sharing waypoints.

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You need an Ethernet to connect the two HDS units if they're not already. Then you need the NMEA 2000 for them to talk to the Xi5. If you've already got NMEA 2000 in your boat, then all you need is an Xi5 with GPS and a T for the NMEA 2000 and a NMEA 2000 cable to go to TM.

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Originally Posted by TimY

I'm kinda old school but the anchor function still works without being hooked up to a locator is this correct. Been told different things from dealers. I understood it has it's own built-in GPS

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This is correct. However, if you tie it to the lowrance HDS Gen 2 units, you can go from waypoint to waypoint if they're close in proximity and can use trolling motor to get there. It'll automatically anchor at the waypoints once it arrives.

All this talk sounds pretty complicated to this old geezer! I find what I want with my Garmins and hit the anchor button. Done!

p.s. I got the rebate when I bought mine and when I bought my Garmins. Every $$ helps.

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Originally Posted by CHECrappie

If you have a NMEA 2000 kit powered and installed, then you should be able to add another T and a cable to connect to the Xi5 trolling motor.

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Originally Posted by CHECrappie

If you have a NMEA 2000 kit powered and installed, then you should be able to add another T a gateway and a cable to connect to the Xi5 trolling motor.

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I'm with you on that complicated part. We run Garmin's also just a little difference in anchoring system's. I have a 25 pounder in the front and a 25 pounder in the back both on 100 ft ropes.

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Originally Posted by Okie Bob

It would be nice to be able to idle my boat over a waypoint and if I want to fish it, hit a button to lock the tm on that spot. .

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I have run Bobbys boat on a slow speed with his XI5 deployed. If I see something good I want to fish on his down scan, I hit the anchor mode button on the XI5 remote hanging around my neck. Stick the boat in neutral and kill the big motor and the XI5 will take us back to the spot I hit the anchor mode button. One does not need to connect to their Lowrance HDS.

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Originally Posted by Crappie Reaper

I have run Bobbys boat on a slow speed with his XI5 deployed. If I see something good I want to fish on his down scan, I hit the anchor mode button on the XI5 remote hanging around my neck. Stick the boat in neutral and kill the big motor and the XI5 will take us back to the spot I hit the anchor mode button. One does not need to connect to their Lowrance HDS.

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That's all I needed to know.

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Originally Posted by TimY

I'm kinda old school but the anchor function still works without being hooked up to a locator is this correct. Been told different things from dealers. I understood it has it's own built-in GPS

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I would assume you are correct about being able to use the 'anchor' function in a stand alone application. I have not looked close at the website but, if the GPS isn't standard, I wasn't aware of it. How else would the 'anchor' or 'spotlock' function work with out it?

If you get the Xi5 with GPS, you can do every function, the gateway nor the HDS is required. The gateway just allows you to see and control it more easily.

My understanding is 1) if you get a non-GPS version you have to add Pinpoint to get the anchor to function, also 2) you cannot use the GPS off your HDS to anchor the Xi5. The Xi5 has two GPS receivers built in, which is why it is pretty accurate.

So if you buy the Xi5 without GPS, it is just a remote controlled tm.

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Originally Posted by okhawg

If you get the Xi5 with GPS, you can do every function, the gateway nor the HDS is are required. The gateway just allows you to see and control it more easily.

My understanding is 1) if you get a non-GPS version you have to add Pinpoint to get the anchor to function, also 2) you cannot use the GPS off your HDS to anchor the Xi5. The Xi5 has two GPS receivers built in, which is why it is pretty accurate.

So if you buy the Xi5 without GPS, it is just a remote controlled tm.

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This. :hesaid

I had a chance to go through the whole season last year with my setup. Xi5, Nmea, gateway, Lowrance hds 8 gen 2, hds 5 gen 1, hds 9 gen 3 and point 1 all networked together. Tons of postives and few negatives. Ill start with the negatives, the motorguide quick release bracket is made out of cast alum. My first time out on a windy day buckled down to a Ram mount and it snapped in half (bracket). Postive from that was motorguide refunded me my money. I went with a minn kota quick release bracket and modified it, much more happier. My last negative is sometimes when I go top speed it shuts down but still powers back up after it shuts down (still looking for anwsers). Postives... I caught more fish last season then I ever have in a season and i only fished half a season. My freezer was full and no need get greedy with it. The anchor lock is awesom especially spider rigging, once I located brush I just anchored on it with little error of repostioning. Jogging around brush to find the sweet spots was nice. The Point 1 helped a whole lot with positioning. it took less time locating brush and setting up on structure. Finding structure and able to save the anchor points was crucial, just hitting a button to bounce from different structures while letting fish calm down was nice. Heading lock was a little suspect but really didnt play with it. Really didnt use the recording route, but ill be using that this year to troll crankbaits. Sidescanning and being able to touch the screen and tell the trolling motor to anchor on structure or off to the side is nice also. The key to the anchor lock is wind, no wind it can be a pain from the motor trying to correct it self but at that point the wind is so clam you can manually troll.

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Originally Posted by blchandler1981

The key to the anchor lock is wind, no wind it can be a pain from the motor trying to correct it self but at that point the wind is so clam you can manually troll.

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Wind or a some current, does make the anchor lock work much better. These in effect, act as a back anchor so the tm isn't fighting everything. Any gps tm will behave the same.

I've been trying to follow this thread, but my techno-illiteracy keeps getting in the way. All I've ever used is the system known as Line-Of-Sight Tracking, lining up a near point with a distant point in one direction and then a near point with a far point in a direction about 90 degrees with the first line. The biggest advantage is the low cost of this system. And I was always happy to use it when I was puttering around the house and my wife told me to "Get L O S T".

Bass pro had a decent deal going on where they had their triple crown promotion. Was able to get the xi5 with 100 gift card, triple points, and free installation. Combined that with the current motor guide rebate and made me decide to make the jump and get one!

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Originally Posted by Canuck

Bass pro had a decent deal going on where they had their triple crown promotion. Was able to get the xi5 with 100 gift card, triple points, and free installation. Combined that with the current motor guide rebate and made me decide to make the jump and get one!

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First of all, welcome to CDC!

I was in the OKC BP today for a bit, and looked at the Xi5. As usual, might as well been in the store by myself because in 20 minutes nobody came by to answer any questions, so I didn't hear about the rebate or the other freebee's.

Welcome Canuck- is that triple crown promotion still going on?

Got one ordered today. Hopefully I'll see it later this week.

If you don't mind- where did you order it from Dennis?

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Originally Posted by Crappie ciller

If you don't mind- where did you order it from Dennis?

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I'm not Dennis, but I got mine from Universal Mania. Good price and free and FAST delivery.

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Originally Posted by Crappie ciller

If you don't mind- where did you order it from Dennis?

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Universal mania as well here.
West Marine had a cheaper price by a few bucks with free shipping but they have to charge sales tax.
Others that were comparable in price, had a 2-4 week back order.

I bought mine from BBG Marine. Brian was great to work with. When I received mine it had been damaged in shipping. No questions asked, Brian sent me a new one and took care of getting the damaged one sent back. Purchased HDS9's and also the NMEA2000 to network them all together. Brian answered every email and call I made figuring this all out.