Evidently, they can't get this water into Hefner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujv...ature=youtu.be
Printable View
Evidently, they can't get this water into Hefner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cujv...ature=youtu.be
Nope. . . That water goes straight into the north Canadian and will eventually flood around the Jones and Harrah area.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoBits
I guess Overholser is filled to the brim also ???Quote:
Originally Posted by lazylakedog
All this conversation about wheather the Corp did the right or wrong thing reminds me of the guy that built his new house in a flight path around an airport and then complained and protested because of the airplane noise!
I built a new home on Cedar Creek Lake in Tx a few years ago, as close to the waters edge as they would allow. I don't believe I would have any right to complain if the water rose and flooded my house. I made the decision, nobody held a gun to my head and made me do it. Unintended consequences are going to happen. Man up, bite the bullet and move on! You don't have to like the results but, you need to take responsibility for your decisions!
They don't need to get that water into Hefner now. It's full.
That's what I was saying the other day to my wife Bob. I'd never live down stream from a dam. If I lived anywhere on or near water I'd have to take possible flooding into the equation.
Yeah, Hefner hit normal of 1199 Saturday, but they can usually get another foot or two in without flooding.
Wister lake is 30 feet above normal and rising. The corps doesn't have a choice in the amount they release here because it is flowing 12 feet deep through the emergency spillway. and it won't crest for a while still.
Last I checked Hugo was 34' above. Can't imagine.
Wister lake is 30 feet above normal and rising. The corps doesn't have a choice in the amount it releases because it is floi12 feet deep through the emergency spillway.
Two bits you were at the texoma dam? Catching fish below there?Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoBits
No. I found that video at the Texas Fishing Forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by lazylakedog
I doubt that fella caught any fish, can't imagine any fish would be strong enough to fight that current, let alone feed in that current.
Look at weather channel or news9.com
We had to get 13 out on our deer lease.
They brought a fawn out they named her " flood ".
Im freaking beat...
It's wild
Stacy had this on her FB page. I thought it interesting enough to share here.
The maximum peak discharge at Eufaula actually occurred in May 1990, with a peak of 389,000 cfs. The volume amounted to 2,374,000 acre-feet over a 16-day period which is equivalent to 5.30 inches of runoff from the lower basin and 0.94 inches from the entire basin above the dam site. The largest total volume of runoff occurred in 1957 and amounted to 4,550,000 acre-feet, which is equivalent to 10.15 inches from the lower basin and 1.80 inches of runoff from the total area above the dam site.
No matter where you live, there is probably a U.S. Army Corps of Engineer’s lake nearby. Nationally, the Corps manages nearly 600 dams and lakes. Tulsa district manages 32 flood control lakes plus the flood control storage at 12 state and other federal agency lakes.
Individually, lakes are integral parts of the community they serve. Flood control lakes protect the towns, cities, and farmland immediately downstream. Collectively, they operate as a system.
When operated together, lakes in a watershed support each other and can increase their individual benefits to the communities they serve.
Attachment 204394
Looks like it's going to be a while before the people around and below the lake will be out of danger my prayers go out to them affected. WSD :pray:pray:pray
Roosevelt Bridge on Texoma
https://twitter.com/Line2Comm/status/603677215113388032
The link takes you to a video of the Frisco railroad bridge in Texoma, not the Roosevelt Bridge. Roosevelt Bridge is probably still at least 5' from looking like the RR bridge. But, we are getting more rain this morning and the lake is still rising.
As Snoopy would say: Cowabunga!Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie Bob
Anyone else thing that the Corp dropped the ball?
Medicine Park, Ellsworth, Lawtonka .... from a drone
https://vimeo.com/128915707?ref=tw-share
https://vimeo.com/128915707?ref=tw-share
Lake Humphreys
https://vimeo.com/128600681
Hey, they were sure we were in a permanent drought caused by global warming/climate change ..... its not their fault that reality came knocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crappie Reaper
I never thought they dropped the ball. Those guys at the corp are hard working guy's and I know when our water ways get in the terrible position they are in it really bothers those guy's and they do the best with what Mother Nature throws at them. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT WANT THEIR JOB. With that being said my hats off to all the corp employees AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. WSD
Eufaula is dropping and this next weeks forecast looks like they may be able to make more progress. Kudos to the corps. Can't totally control Mother Nature but they've done a great job.
Yes they have done a great job , Mother Nature didn't cut them any slack over the last few weeks . I can tell you that due to some good decisions by the corps. Bixby was spared from a lot of flooding . Some folks took on some water from Snake creek but none due to the river . They are patiently sticking with a 30,000cfs output and now finally Keystone has stopped rising and will start to go down soon .
When keystone goes down, Kaw will start releasing. That is how the flood control system works.Quote:
Originally Posted by oucrappie
Eufaula has dropped 18 inches from its highest point looking at the bushes
Talked to a Ranger on Saturday at the Eufaula dam and she said they were going to be closing the gates some to allow 10killer to release. Sunday they lowered the gates 3 different times -- currently at 4.5'. No rain in the forecast so the level is still dropping, but much slower now. And I'm actually thankful for that since I can't be down there this week to monitor my dock. Luckily we were there all last week on vacation so I was able to do what needed to be done to keep our dock from hanging up on the pencils. We helped several other dock owners that we could. But many other docks in our area were going to need professional help from somebody with a barge.
Attachment 205051
I was there when texoma crested at almost 646. . . Flooded homeowners are now pleading for boats not to make wakes close to the shore because the waves are coming into their homes
Is the Corp not releasing much from any of the flooded lakes? I see they are coming down but not very fast. Or is there a more dynamic reason?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyabolical
Pretty sure down stream is getting all they can handle and that the Corp is releasing some out of all. They finally started letting a little out of Oologah. They had been holding water on Oologah allowing Keystone, and the Grand River Lakes to come down a bit trying not to flood Kerr. I saw a picture of lock and Dam 13 in Arkansas and it looked like an island. I heard rumors that questioned whether the lock and dam may be lost but haven't heard anything more. Oologah topped out at just under 2' of their top out. With the creeks and rivers feeding the Verdigris and the Arkansas Rivers slowing down, it has allowed the Corp to start releasing from Oologah Spillway. Input on the Verdigris from Kansas finally slowed down and the lake has dropped .4' since this morning.
Mind you, I am not a professional and this is only my guess as to what's happening on these particular rivers. Corp knows best. Let's just say that if Northern Oklahoma would have recieved another day or two of rain, it could have been pretty bad. I'm just glad the waters are finally starting to recede.
Positive Crappie Reaper is correct. Downstream flooding is a big concern. Keep in mind, we are talking billions of gallons of water being held and released, and every ditch, creek and river along the way is adding water. Most of our lakes are flood control lakes, this is one year they are being called on to do just that. It sucks for fishing and the people and businesses that are on those lakes, but that is what they are for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyabolical
Like has been said, the down stream areas, and their flooding concerns take priority over all else. Kaw was about to go over the top of the gates, so they released a foot or so and now are releasing just a tad more than they are taking on. Between Kaw and Keystone are several feeder rivers/creeks that are draining hundreds of thousands of acres of wheat/farm ground that wouldn't be drained if Kaw was opened up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyabolical
Oooh I definitely was not doubting the corps management, I had just failed to take downstream issues into consideration.
So assuming no significant precipitation for the rest of summer, I assume we won't see normal levels for several weeks?
I bet it is more than a month before things become normal. It might be a month before a lot of landings are even open again. We (Oklahoma) got 14.4" of rain average across the state, the old record was 10.75". An estimated 54 trillion gallons of water fell in OK and TX alone, and AR and LA also got record rains. When you add in the upstream places that got record rainfalls (Wichita, Colorado Springs, Pueblo), there is still water coming into OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyabolical
Reaper. From my understanding 13 and 14 were designed to be flooded. I know it's gone over the top of 14 several times through the years with no problems. Corp moves everything out then has to rewire and move everything back in after flooding subsidesQuote:
Originally Posted by Crappie Reaper
Canton gained four feet in last two days , still a good inflow and its raining in Woodward now, with more rain in the forecast ........... might even get the lake filled
Canton Lake
I tried to put my boat on Draper Tuesday, but they have the boat ramps closed mostly. At the main ramp they have all the courtesy docks blocked off, making it very hard to launch.
The lake got up one foot over normal and they shut down the docks.
Its fallen one half foot since Tuesday and is just inches over normal now, so docks should be available this weekend.
The ramps at the other end of the lake were locked up, gates closed.
Kaw is still 24' high. When it gets down to 15' high or so, it time to get the jugs out and snag some blues off the flats next to the river channel.