I use Ranger's version a lot also - sometimes the Huckabee - sometimes Rangers. Really don't think much about it at the time. Just whatever the fingers do. As far as using line I do go up the line lots, on purpose. I like to keep it fresh and since I use only Viscious I can get 1500-2300 yards for the price of some 300 yards filler spools. I keep my line fresh all the time. Another knot I use, although not a loop is an old fly fishing knot - the Davy knot. very quick and easy and quite strong.

