the internet is a wonderful thing--it showed me the way to lake carl Blackwell and told me it would take about 45 minutes to get there....hmmmm the internet lied I left my house about noon today to make sure I could find my way to LCB (thought a daylight drive would be beneficial for when I want to find my way in the dark) I am so glad I did....I went the direct route from shawnee and it took me nearly 2 hours...I will not go that way in the morning...it will be so much faster to go to OKC hit 35 and take it to 51--thats a much faster way for me to get to crappie paradise