Restocking

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Originally Posted by Boatbottom

Agree that the chances are very slim but with the right approach maybe a chance. I would ask the winter pool be raised 5' on only one of the big 4 each year. The other 3 would stay the same. That way the flood control goals would be minimally effected and each lake could catch its' breathe once every four years. The corp cares about flood control and if they deemed this plan within their goals, who knows.

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Can't happen, when Grenada was going over the E spillway by 7 feet that would be 12 feet and the damage would have been devastating to the city of Grenada. The years it has gone over the E sliway they never reached winter pool, if they had it may not have went over

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Originally Posted by MO' MONEY

I agree on the structure argument. I could care less if you take one or 20 poles to the lake, the fish need habitat to spawn in. Ive seen the oxbow lakes lose more and more structure each year due to floods and it has definitely hurt populations and catch rates. I would be willing to come help out on habitat days now that I am fishing these lakes more. Whoever has the info, shoot me a PM and i will give you my number, I would be glad to give a little back to these lakes.

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WE can do some planning. The lakes are filling so most material will have to be dropped. Collect material, what we can where we can. Call a work day and see who can show up. Call the COE lake office to see what material they have that can be used.
I have a truck load of bamboo tops, 8 to 14' tall I guess. Lot more where I got it and the guy wants it all gone.

Look as far as habitat every spring go to any bank on the lakes where the wind has washed up driftwood and beaver cuts. Grab a Arm full walk out a few feet make some structure very easy. Just show up with your waders. ive lost count of beds I've put out. Been fishing Sardis Enid and Grenada been putting stuff in all 3. I enjoy it. #1 feels great to give back. #2 feels great to catch fish off what I've put out. #3 feels great to see thousands of hatches of fish holding in those beds avoiding predators in open water. Concern I have is those white pelicans does anybody know if there protected I would love to take those out. They can eat some fish. There numbers are growing

Yes the pelicans are protected under the migratory bird treaty.. I haven't been seeing a lot of those the last couple of weeks. Have seen a lot of gulls though (as usual) and some type of fish hawk last Saturday afternoon while camping. Interesting birds for sure, large wingspan and brown colored. A group of 4 or 5 were wearing the dinks out in a cove, after my exploits with the shorts recently I was actually routing them on.. Lol. Besides they was only fishing with two talons..

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Originally Posted by Snubbys

Yes the pelicans are protected under the migratory bird treaty.. I haven't been seeing a lot of those the last couple of weeks. Have seen a lot of gulls though (as usual) and some type of fish hawk last Saturday afternoon while camping. Interesting birds for sure, large wingspan and brown colored. A group of 4 or 5 were wearing the dinks out in a cove, after my exploits with the shorts recently I was actually routing them on.. Lol. Besides they was only fishing with two talons..

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Then you haven't been in shallow water, watched a group of 20 or 30 of them herd bait fish in a corner the other afternoon wear them out, they are eating machine!!

Yes I've seen them in action, they can put down some fish. Seems imminent doom is at every turn now. Got out of staters, guides, trollers, single polers, trotliners, yo yo guy's threatining our fish and now we getting it from the daggum bird's too.. just don't do a body good to set foot outside the house anymore these days.... Lol

You left out the boat ramp sitters.

Bahahaha has, I think of all those pesky things y'all just mentioned, the boat ramp sitters and boat dock sitters grind my gears more than any mentioned.

As as far as the genetics on these lakes, that could be the case. Here in MO we have a COE flood control lake, Wappappello. My family has had a cabin on it since the 60's. Dad has told me stories of "the old days" when my grandpa and his fishing buddy would go out with a laundry basket to put fish in and that they would catch some serious slabs, 20" plus. Dad said they never batted an eye when they was filleting them, they just seen it as another meal. Nowadays your lucky to catch a limit of 11" fish. And if you do you culled 300 shorts. Y'all have a good thing going that's for sure!