neither had ever operated a bait caster or crank bait fished before. it didn't take but a minute to discover they would fish with a single rod and i would not fish at all.. didn't take long til they could handle everything except nettin and taking fish off and that where i came in.. caught a good many shorts and five catfish but put number 30 in the boat around 10 and we headed home. they didn't make it back to 55 in that cool a.c. truck. thanks for lookin. WS