LOL, LOOKY HERE, what I found

[DonDon]

I was looking around for some 14 to 16 foot poles for spider rigging and figured that I could find some BGJP's pretty cheap. Well, I got on Yahoo and typed in BGJP on sale in the search box and looky whats I fount on a Green Carp board



12/11/2007 3:43:00 PM Submitted by Wannabe from MS says Paging George, George please pick up the white courtesy phone
Closest blank I've been able to find is a steelhead blank by St. Croix - SCII. Kind of pricey though. Never seen a Steelhead either. Do you think either of these blanks would work for vertical jigging up to 8' with 1/16 and 1/8 jigs with 6# test and have enough backbone to pull 3# slabs out of the snags and still survive the occasional 8# White River Cat and 4# Largemouth? 2S116LM2 11'6 2 4-10lb. 1/16-1/2oz. L MOD. Drift/Float .455 6.5 3.1
2S130LM2 13' 2 2-6lb. 1/16-3/8oz. L MOD. Float .47 5 3.3
Wannabe...




Then this


12/12/2007 11:19:00 AM Submitted by Wannabe from MS says Ding Ding Ding
Recoil is the way I'm gonna go. Cost won't be too bad, since it'll all be the small snake guides, with 1 or spinning style loop as the first guid from the handle and an alocnite tip. There is no casting with this technique. Basically ease up to a stump or pile and dunk a jig on top of their heads. BnM has the market on the rods, but it's all crap relatively speaking. They make nice rods like the Sam Heaton Super Sensitve, which is an IM7 blank, but I don't care for the handle and I can see a lot of potential weight to be trimmed.
You're right about being tip heavy, but balancing the reel helps as does and extended handle behind the reel that can be braced on the forearm.
The trick on the blank is going to be finding something slow enough with some backbone in the last 4 foot. For example, on my Sam Heaton, a 2 pound crappie will not give any bend in the last 4 foot even if I lift it out of the water with the rod. A 3 pound Bass will put some detectable bend in the handle section on a strong run though. Catfish are evil with this rod, but that's why I use a "Crappie" reel with a rudimentary drag.
Believe it or not, I've landed Catfish up to 15# and Carp up to 20# and Bass up to 6# all with 4# test with setups like this. Just need some patience and lots of slow action in the rod.
I'm also looking at some fly blanks, but I'm thinking unless I jump way up in weight, there would be too much give in that last 3 or 4 feet. Probably would be adequate though.
Thanks for the help.
Wannabe...




Lastly LOL


/17/2007 10:45:00 AM Submitted by Wannabe from MS says My Daddy always said, if you can't take a joke
I'll whip your arse. LOL. George says the recoils are the cat's meow. 'Round here, that's about as good as it gets, so don't wait for my endorsement. Afterall, I'm just Wannabe... Only complaint I've heard on the recoil is the noise with brade. I hear ya on the tip though. Have you thought about the new guides with the interlock ceramic? Look awfull tuff.
Trouble is with the fly rods, for any quality, the price gets ridiculous, real quick. I picked up a 12 wt this weekend at BPS and was surprised to find that it was about the action I needed. 10 or 11 should have been about right, but my wife was prodding me through the store, so I didn't get to spend much time checking them out.
From my research, I've found that to get a blank designed for what I want, the only option is to buy a crappie blank and strip it down, but then, I'd end up with a blank no better than what can be "store-bought". I think I'm gonna try one of the steelhead blanks and I'll let ya'll know how it works out.
Wannabe...

[Speck]

I knew it. He done switched over to the dark side. Guess he's "one of them" now

[gabowman]

Well...........if you cant catch crappie...Just saying.:rolleyes::D

["G"]

Look at the dates....those were made three years ago

[Big H trucking]

If the shoe fits...x1 gabowman

[DonDon]

I know G, just thought it was funny finding those is a search for B & M poles

["G"]

The way I see it DD is WB was a Wannabe green carp fisherman and he sucked at it so he switched to crappie and he has now figured out that he sucks at that even after he resorted to snagging and has switched to plain old common carp and he is now spending his time at carp.com lmao

["G"]

Ha ha ha.....just reading that all that talk of custom rods using St. Croix blanks etc.....still taliking all that high priced stuff but the last few pics he showed he was using a cheap Shakesphere reel, mao.

[Wannabe...]

Actually, I remember that conversation and the thought process that led me to the question and the discussion with George on the weight issue with the guides. George, btw was George Roth, a finer rod maker you'll never find. That boy can build a rod like no one else and if you've got the coin, he can bling it out for ya so that a rap star would be jealous.

Anyhow, he pulled that off of the Bass Fishing Home Page. 1st post there was back in 99. I've been a Wannabe for a long, long time.

Oh, never did build the rod based on a steel head blank. The cost just never made it viable. Decent blank back then started around $50 on up and I'd have had to take a guess on the action from the worded description. Getting it right on the first shot would have been tough and by the time I added in a reel seat, cork and guides, it would have built out around $75ish. Kind of a tough pill to swallow when a Sam Heaton checks in sub $50. Ended up stripping the guides on the Sam Heaton and replacing the first 3 with Fuji Alconites to increase the distance when throwing corks and jigs. This Summer, Mr COE busted that tip section for me on the tow. Matter of fact, I need to order that replacement tip today. Therefore, DD ain't near as useless as I tend to think of him. Thanks DD.

Wannabe...

[DonDon]

Glad I could of assistance WB. Hope the snagging went well this morning