Indeed he is the right man for the white house. Just wish we could re-elect him again.
Maybe his wife will run.
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Indeed he is the right man for the white house. Just wish we could re-elect him again.
Maybe his wife will run.
And just how is this Bush's fault? He did not elect the Congress and Senate......WE DID. Talk about no accountability? Look at the past adminsitration then talk about accountability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eager Beaver
Glen, you would have to read some of the beavers posts to begin to understand his thinking. As an American, he has a right to his opinion.
I support Bush on everything but the Mexican Border. The influx of cheap labor hurts my family and my chance of working on a consistant basis. The pollsters know who they are polling and choose to poll the ones they think will go the way they want them to. News itself is for sale as much as anything else. ie.. Don Henley, Dirty Laundry.
I don't usually get involved in these political discussions due to the fact that I've seen so many of them turn into a name calling personal attack between guys that got along well until politics came between them. I've always voted for the man and not the party. As 1weezer just asserted, he voted for Bill Clinton, just as I did, as a measure to eliminate the other runner for the same office, and I'm a staunch RNC member. To have voted for anyone else at that time would have been insanity, IMHO. I voted for Bush too, as much for blocking the remainder of the field as for Bush himself. I approve some of what Bush has done and probably disapprove more of what he hasn't done or has done wrong. In any case, as in the Clinton race, I voted for the man I considered the best choice, in my opinion there were no alternatives. You can rest assured I will alienate no one due to political affliation, nor will I engage in a verbal attack or stand by while others do. We are here because we all like to fish for our favorite, the crappie. Lets not degrade the best fishing forum on the web by personal attacts. That is the one thing our Administrator asks and little else. Just a reminder, guys. Not too much to ask, is it?
I voted for President Bush both times and his father when he ran. I support my President no matter who he is. I didn't vote for Clinton and never would for any reason or any political office, but he was my President voted in by my fellow Americans and I supported him. I despised him, but had I met him I would have called him "Mr. President; Sir". That doesn't mean that I agree with everything that any President has done or said since 1977 when I started voting, but if we put them there, then we need to hold ourselves accountable to an extent. If none of us made mistakes, we'd all be perfect. They're human, but their office requires our respect and support. A nation divided within itself, cannot stand. PLEASE let's not let this get out of hand like the discussion last week! We all need to stick together for the troops, hurricane evacuees, our children, our government, and ourselves. Backwood thoughts from an AMERICAN to other AMERICANS!
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Originally Posted by Crappie Reaper
I agree with you that something has to be done about our boarders. I do not think they should be closed. This country was founded by imagrents. But they should come in the legal way.
If you want the immigrants to stop coming across the boarder that is very easy to solve. Washington should tell Mexico to stop their people from coming across the boarder illegally or we put santions against Mexico. Hit them hard in the pocket book. It should be up to them to keep their people on their side of the boarder not America. Mexico is getting rich off of the US allowing them to be here, and now this administration wants to make them legal citizens.
Mexicans should be allowed to come here, legally. They are doing jobs lazy white and blacks won't do, in general. When we start paying 10 dollars for a 15 strawberries,and other fruits, we'll be raising heck. Most of them are hard working people. Can you realize how much some things would be if it were not for their cheap labor?
It does piss me off that America is the only country in the world without a national language.
Nothing like polotics to get everyone going! I voted for George Bush and still support him. But I guess I would support whoever our President was, especially in tough times. As far as the war, I have 3 very good friends who all served in Iraq. I value their opinions more than any newscast or political person. All 3 said that the majority of people there are thankful that we are there. All 3 also said they would go back, and one of them did for a second tour.
Weezur, I didn't even know they would let you vote!!!!!!!!!!!
Russ
Ok fishing pox, I DO realized how CHEAP certain things are from the illegals being in this country. I agree there are plenty of lazy Americans. But, when one has to literally work their azz off everday, and not make much for their effort, it's easy to be turned away from the work that is available. I think your statement is a copout and if the illegals were not here, there would be someone that would gladly do their job, but it would cost the business owner a bit more (i.e. ins, possible health, etc.). The business owner caught using them should be fined so much, they would have to think twice about having a proper I-9 form on hand for their employees.
This is the first post you have made, that I am sorry, I cannot agree with. Why shouldn't a person, an American, be concerned about the wage paid for his chosen trade? Too bad if veggies and building costs were to have increases due to the workers getting paid for an honest days work. As a Trim Carpenter, they have stagnated, and in most cases reversed the amount each job will pay. I am making less now than I was 15 years ago. I am from the "old school" and take the extra time to make sure a job is done right. I cannot afford an experienced American helper. I should be able to employ other experienced Carpenters @ $15-20 an hour (They deserve a living too). But, because of the influx of illegals, labor stays at a bare minimum. I am down to two builders that will pay the extra .15 a foot that I charge above the illegals because of the quality of detail. And the wage I charge, hasn't changed in 15 years.
I don't know what you do for a living, but, fantasize a group of illegals flooding your market in your chosen work. Then picture the competition getting tougher and tougher price wise. Then, think of what it would be like to possibly, completly lose your job to an illegal. What you have mentioned, is how the upper echelon thinks and does not try to put themselves in someone elses place. They only look at it as keeping prices down for them. I promise you, the cost of residential, or commercial building has only risen in matterials only. The labor on most trades has remained, or been lowered for years now. Most residential builders only profits 3-4k on a small 2-3 bedroom home. The insurance, the fees, the materials have all risen. The price of labor has gone down.
Now there was a time, they did mainly the meanial jobs. But, watch your back. Now their children are gaining education, and your job, or your childrens job, could be next.
The illegals are now able to get home mortgages from American banks. All they need is an ID card, no visa, no passport. I don't blame them at all for wanting a better life. But it does affect my familys income severely. There are so many in the country right now, if we sent them all home, and sealed the borders, it would cause an economic domino effect dissaster.
I have no problem at all with legal immigrants. After all, that is the way of the USA. But, we must seal the borders and at least know who and why someone is here. It's for the TOTAL good.
This is Reapers opinion.
Put the shoe on the other foot and think about it. The government for years has thought the same way as you. I personaly think of it just like a cancer, once it gets started, it grows and grows. And eventually kills the host.