OPEC is ripping us off....

democrat and republican ain't got nothing to do with it - and the price of oil and gas is a political issue - and this the offf topic board - the problem in my opinions is - ain' it ain't just bashing Bush - it is true we got a man in the white house that got all his money from the oil business - and as for the vice -president if Martha Stewart deserved to go to jail over her stupid actions Dick Cheney should get a life sentence - we got to pull together and elect people that it makes a difference to them and takes stuff away from them when the price of oil rises rather than their families get richer when the prices rise - oh yeah Heinz Ketchup will be more expensive too because of the price of trucking it to the store

they are all basically multi millionaires and some even billionaires that could care less about the average schmuck. when you get money, the next thing you want is power. that is why all these people push and pull and fight and jockey for position to run for the white house. you really think clinton,kerry,heinz,gore,edwards,bush,reagan,carte r,ford,nixon,kennedy,etc...etc...give half a horse turd about you and me? they want the power and the prestige that being president gives you. for them, there is no other higher plateau after they have already gotten the money. oil,ketchup,gang money,peanuts,acting,crooked real estate transactions,class action lawsuits,inheritance,manufacturing........don't matter where you got the money. fact is,you got the money the rest is bullplop and power! :D

Ya know, I am neither Democrat or Republican. I'm not Communist, or Green Party either. I am an American, which used to mean I lived in the land of the free. Where the government was ran by the people, for the people. I can point fingers back and forth at each and every one of the parties, and list many of the wrongs they have done in the past. It still will never change anything. What about this country's future? I know my vote doesn't say much, but then again...I can't remember the last time somebody ran who wasn't a completely formed bi-product from either party hoopla and/or special interest sectors. The bottom line is, our great nation is in trouble folks. Our government's infastructure is so F'd up, it's corruption even goes all the way down to the local parking meter attendants. I wish I had the answers, and I wish there was a canidate again who I could believe in and trust to vote for, instead of choosing the lesser of the two evils. One who would and could straighten out this country which I call home. We can spend billions on shooting crap at the sun, but we can't feed our homeless and care for our senior citizens who built this country? We can tax and ticket a consumer to death, but we can't provide a road worthy of driving on? We can send our youths over seas to die, but we ignore the benefits that were promised our Veterans? $2.55 a gallon for gas... it hurts, and it really sucks. That all said, I wish that everyone's hardships are met with solutions. I am gonna go back to enjoying some fishing now. Gonna try to get some in before my government declares fish to be the property of the USA, and levy usage fees per bite!

Full baskets and gas tanks to all, and thank you to the Vets who gave me the freedom to say this without being shot!

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PS. One other thing.. The King of Rock and Roll died this day August 16th, 1977. Rest in peace Elvis.

Come on Tim,,,,,Tell us how you really feel :D As some of us who's parents grew-up at the end of the depression, tell us, "it's not that bad"!!! There is still enough food at the stores to buy or anything else we wish to buy. I know how it was in the early 70's when the lines at gas stations were a mile long just to get 10gal. Then go to another line to get 10 more. We have created this mess with wars(that we can't win) and SUV's and that stuff that Tim mention. Look out,,,the auto industry is going to drop them as fast as the 'muscle cars' dissappeared in the 70's. If I had one, it would be "FOR SALE
" today. I had a '70 GTX, then, with a gas guzzling 440 cu.in. , 375hp tire smoker. Loved it but, only got 8mpg. I sold it for almost nothing!!! Bought a VEGA :confused: :mad: Another mistake. Both cars are now collectors worth thousands. Anyway,,,just some venting as the price of fuel keeps climbing but,,,,,,I can still filler-up when at the pump,,,if I have enough $$$$ <*)}}}><

Het Chatt, that wasn't me...it was Dennis Filler, or Rush Blowhard, or Ross Period, or Ralph Radar, or Jay Aeno... but I saved a bunch on my car insurance by switching to Geicco! Hehe!

The voices in my head keep telling me I've snapped, and the five of us are starting to agree!

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I read all these posts and they all have the same tune. FED UP! But what are we going to do about it? Wait until the next election when fuel will be $5.00 a gal.? Or should we start raising h*ll now with our so called elected officials? If enough people start complaining maybe by election time the officials will take notice.
We send billions of $ overseas to try and buy other countries friendship and most of them still hate us. Yet we can't take care of our seniors (as said in an earlier post), we still have homeless people, we still have people that can't afford decent medical coverage an we still have people go hungry.
I do not feel that my tax dollars are used wisely. I want it to stay in the US and do some good.
I guess that enough ranting for today.


YA'LL HAVE A NICE DAY :D

Well, after thinking this over last night, I want to say a couple of things -
first, to Canepole, sorry to have contributed to getting this off of your
original topic. Second, I would rather be friends and enjoy the fishing
talk than argue with someone, even if we are polar opposites in our
ideology. So, I will try very hard not to post anything political again.
Like I did say, I really don't trust or like ANY of them, so it is silly of me to
get involved in discussing their merits or lack of. As for the fuel prices,
when it gets too high to go fishing, maybe I can move closer to the lake
and get a rowboat - too much stuff to worry about now already without
taking on more. Good day, and good fishing to all. Jeff

I asked for opinions and you stated yours. We still have freedom of speech here. We, afterall, are Americans. Controversy is good. It stirs the emotions and the imagination of us all. Hell, I will argue with the Devil, but I will respect his/her right to express his/her point of view.

Well, just to add that I believe in "fair market value". That is what the Oil Gods base prices around. Now, I just can't figure what is fair about the market.

I don't know much but here goes. Opec is and will continue to choke the world economy. We being the largest user, driving the largest vehicles, don,t really have OPEC loosing sleep over our problems.The oil companys are making their share and I still dont see everyone boycotting the nickel a gallon more guy to drive his profit back down a nickel. NO . I see nothing . It seem like a average day.China,and India are now large crude buyers. Their economies are going strong and the people now want cars. The tree huggers bitch every time some company wants to drill a hole, we must see OPEC.I am preparing for 3.00 a gallon.The wife WILL make less trips, and Will do all the running on one day.The independant truckers are the first to feel the big squeeze.IT will trinkle down to every item costing more.NOW we have Iraq, the 4th largest oil reserve in the world, it will slip through our fingers because our dumb ass Political Parties can,t come to a common theme of put your countries needs first and win this thing. I would have to think that we would have the ability as a unified effort,to get Iraqs oil production up to the point of filling the demand that SAUDI refuses to increase to. NO, that would make this war a Unified effort at this point and we can,t have that.If ANWAR has fuel reserves , I say reindeer burgers for everyone.When gas hit 2.00 a gallon, the old Chevy moved on for a V6 that got 20mpg. A LIFE TRUTH IS PEOPLE DON' T CHANGE, YOU JUST GET USED TO IT. I really would like to see 2.00 a gallon fuel , but again people keep buying it. 15.00 to fill up a 5 gal boat tank!....and I too just bought it. fish on.

The problem with sticking together to get the price of gas down is, The rich man is not going to quit buying cause he can afford it. The poor man is not going to quit cause he can't afford not to buy it in order to get to work for his weekly pay check.
When it get's to $ 3.00 a gal here. I'm going to buy a wagon & two mules,LOL, either that or making my own moonshine to run off of.