Reaper, I have been searching deals for trucks for a long time now. I have not found anything close really yet to either deal. The 08 model GMC I have priced new at several dealers with MSRP being 25 to 26 thousand. So they wont come down any mroe than about 3 grand leaving me at about 22 grand for a new one. The 08 is in excellent condition and almost like new for half the price almost. The 07 model I looked up at a few dealers and MSRP is over 30 thousand. So there again the price is half price. Both were asking more money but this is the lowest amounts I could talk them down. My other problem is I am wanting to buy a boat so I probably cant buy a new one. I do not know. I might visit some dealers today and see. My credit is bad due to getting screwed in a divorce so my interest will be too high to buy new and afford that big of a payment. I have looked a lot and have yet to really beat these deals, I have found a few close but not as good. Thanks for your input and if you see something that looks good please let me know.