20 year olds

There will unfortuneately always be the very few in ANY organization that really shouldn`t be there, and the military is the same, although the vast majority are VERY dedicated and honorable men and women who sincerely put the interest of their country and families above their own. As far as them being willing to bring attention to what they honestly don`t believe to be "right", so long as they aren`t in uniform at the time, if THEY don`t have the "right" to PEACEFULLY demonstrate WHO DOES? Serving honorably does not require them to silently sit by and watch the nation`s situation continue to deteriorate...most of them also VOTE. And even if they serve for 30+ yrs, eventually all of them will return to "civilian' life'...

I don't think the problem is veterans. America is doing them no injustice, nor dishonoring them. The problem is young, lazy, greedy, self oriented people who want all their problems solved by someone else--at the expense of tax payers.

Take for example, this moron... I first heard of him on radio about a week ago. OWS protester- Joe Therrien, who has a masters in puppetry, and wants US to pay his tuition because he can't. YOU HEARD ME RIGHT. Seriously?--Really?--THIS is somehow OUR fault and OUR problem? My next thought was.. Who or what college teaches something like this and has a masters program in puppetry? Is this guy serious? He is! I think he and his companions live in their own little worlds where frivolous tom-foolery somehow pays. I hope Sesame Street saw this guy on Tv and can give him a break before he inspires 10,000 OWS protesters to get degrees in finger painting--at our expense.

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Originally Posted by Lowellhturner

There will unfortuneately always be the very few in ANY organization that really shouldn`t be there, and the military is the same, although the vast majority are VERY dedicated and honorable men and women who sincerely put the interest of their country and families above their own. As far as them being willing to bring attention to what they honestly don`t believe to be "right", so long as they aren`t in uniform at the time, if THEY don`t have the "right" to PEACEFULLY demonstrate WHO DOES? Serving honorably does not require them to silently sit by and watch the nation`s situation continue to deteriorate...most of them also VOTE. And even if they serve for 30+ yrs, eventually all of them will return to "civilian' life'...

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You need a refresher course on the UCMJ. When you sign on the dotted line, your freedoms are knowingly restricted at swear in.

Military Courts, backed by the U.S. Supreme Court, have consistently held that rights under the First Amendment and Freedom of Association can be lawfully restricted when applied to military personnel. Participating in an off-duty civilian demonstration, while wearing a uniform, is regularly prohibited by the military. Engaging in activities or conduct that affects "morale" or the "military mission" can be lawfully prohibited. Engaging in conduct "unbecoming an officer" or that "undermines the effectiveness of response to command" are illegal. Similarly, the military can lawfully regulate GIs access to areas under its authority, to leafleting and activities deemed contrary to "military necessity" or to "good order and discipline."

Hard to get around this when active.

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Originally Posted by RB2D2

Occupy the Home Front: Why Veterans Are Deploying With the 99 Percent | The Nation


Unfortunately, World War I was not the “war to end all wars.” American soldiers continue to be thrust into unnecessary conflicts, fighting and dying in recent years in the undeclared wars of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The United States has not learned much about avoiding unwarranted wars.

And if has not learned much about respecting the veterans of wars.

Just as in the aftermath of World War I veterans were abused when they made reasonable demands for economic justice at home, so veterans are today abused when they make the same sort of demands.

After World War I, veterans seeking bonuses they had been promised were shot in the streets of Washington.


The Bonus Army

Bonus Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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What you know about unwarranted wars? You ever fought in one?

I agree about the bonus army debacle, but it did lead to the GI bill of rights. Don't compare the occupiers to the bonus army. All the men of the bonus army were registered members of the war and no scumbags were allowed in the ranks. Can't say that about the occupiers army of drugs and thugs and poop and bugs.

I fired my kid ! !

another thing that gets me is this school paddling. i turned 27 a couple days ago, and sadly I was the last kid in my county to have a paddling at school and all the other counties around there quit the policy. that was in 7th grade was 14 years ago. I got my fair share of whippings growing up and deserved everyone of them. Now I'm a better man for it.

Geezers in 1944: Sitting on the front porch talking bout "What's this world comin to?".

Geezers in 2011: Sitting in front of a PC posting online "What's this world coming to?". :D:D:D

The "turds" have been falling from the roost since the the beginning of time (Cain/Abel anyone?), and there are plenty of good, hard working, "non-entitled acting" kids around the country right now.

Just seems like every idiot gets a camera pointed at them these days....

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Originally Posted by Splitshot82

Geezers in 1944: Sitting on the front porch talking bout "What's this world comin to?".

Geezers in 2011: Sitting in front of a PC posting online "What's this world coming to?". :D:D:D

The "turds" have been falling from the roost since the the beginning of time (Cain/Abel anyone?), and there are plenty of good, hard working, "non-entitled acting" kids around the country right now.

Just seems like every idiot gets a camera pointed at them these days....

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All wars, and times in society have had their protesters. After Pear Harbor, young men lined up around the corner to be recruited. Today, recruiting stations are shot at, blown up, and protested. When we see protesters these days, they are typically very young, and self oriented--their message is loud and clear. While we DO see young men and women in the trenches today, serving loyally and selflessly, their numbers are a drop in the bucket compared to those who wouldn't bother and only look out for self. They are referred to as the "entitlement generation". Later they would be referred to as the "boomerang generation", because even holding down a job and being independent is becoming too much to ask for, and their ranks return home to live off of mom and dad.

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Originally Posted by backtocrappie

All wars, and times in society have had their protesters. After Pear Harbor, young men lined up around the corner to be recruited. Today, recruiting stations are shot at, blown up, and protested. When we see protesters these days, they are typically very young, and self oriented--their message is loud and clear. While we DO see young men and women in the trenches today, serving loyally and selflessly, their numbers are a drop in the bucket compared to those who wouldn't bother and only look out for self. They are referred to as the "entitlement generation". Later they would be referred to as the "boomerang generation", because even holding down a job and being independent is becoming too much to ask for, and their ranks return home to live off of mom and dad.

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I'm not in any way defending the "Occupy idiots", just the rest of an entire generation that seems to be getting lumped in. Seems kinda easy to point at few morons in an age group and say "They're all like this!". I bet there's more good kids out there than you think.